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[–] halvar@lemy.lol 6 points 37 minutes ago

You just have to change your name, go to a conference, stand on the stage and announce, that you are Et al.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] roundup5381@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 hours ago

I Am Pagliacci

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I am Bibliography

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Suddenly remembered Mitch Hedberg saying on stage, after some of his newer material didn't land as well, "My old shit's better than my new shit~"

Maybe you've just peaked, Ruth, lol.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 77 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You do need to do that though.

If someone wants to read further information they need the citations.

You are supposed to cite all your relevant previous works in each paper you publish.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

She probably did. But the reviewer won't know that as the paper (should) get anonymized before review. The author's own name will be censored all the way throughout the paper with certain publishers.

[–] trolske@feddit.org 6 points 1 hour ago

Depending on field, double-blind reviews are rare. In ecology I had maybe one or two reviews in 5 years that were double-blinded, normally you see the author list as a reviewer

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I doubt that since the comment was a suggestion to read and cite herself. If she did cite herself the assumption would be that she did read the citations so the comment would be moot, no? Why would they suggest to cite herself if she already did?

They only anonymize the author, not the citations right?

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You are absolutely right, but how are you going to make a fire Twitter post if you can't engineer a situation like this? 🤔

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Fire twitter post that reads as incompetence to anyone who matters in their field... Yeah....

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Or just a little fun.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago

I mean, I can't really talk, I'm still working away at undergrad level; and I've got all the social media clout of the average housebrick.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 94 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

If you write something that you base on your previous work, but you don't cite your previous work, that's a problem.

How is the peer reviewer supposed to know who the author is, I thought obfuscating that was the whole point...

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 6 points 1 hour ago

She was told to read and cite the other work. I take that as meaning she hadn't intended to use her previous work as a source, but they wanted her to

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It's a catch-22 situation. You are supposed to disclose if you wrote the thing you're citing, but also cite in third person, and also it should be obfuscated for the peer review. So, what happens is that you write something like "in the author's previous work (yourownname, 2017)…" then that gets censored by yourself or whoever is in charge of the peer review, "in (blank) previous work (blank)…". Now, if you're experienced in reviews you can probably guess it is the author of the paper you're reviewing quoting themselves. But you still don't know who it is, and you could never guess right whether it is Ruth Gotian or not. So you're back to the tweet's situation.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 50 minutes ago

How are you supposed to disclose you wrote it? You just include the authors in the cite. You don't write "as I(we) claimed/proved in [paper]", you wrote "as claimed/proved in [paper]". Who cares if you wrote it or not. It should stand by itself.

[–] oyfrog@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not always—it depends on the publisher for sure, and possibly the field (e.g., physics, chemistry).

In biology, you have several models for peer review. Completely blind reviews where both reviewers and authors are anonymized. You also have semi blind models where the reviewers know the identities of the authors, but the authors don't know reviewers' identities. You also have open reviews where everyone knows one another's identities.

In completely blind and semi-blind models, you occasionally have reviewers that reveal their identity.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

In physics nothing is blinded, and people post their shit to the arxiv when they submit anyway

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 20 points 5 hours ago

But are you Ruth Gotianough?

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 hours ago

That's a win-win

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