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[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 118 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

If you write something that you base on your previous work, but you don't cite your previous work, that's a problem.

How is the peer reviewer supposed to know who the author is, I thought obfuscating that was the whole point...

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 17 points 7 hours ago

She was told to read and cite the other work. I take that as meaning she hadn't intended to use her previous work as a source, but they wanted her to

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a catch-22 situation. You are supposed to disclose if you wrote the thing you're citing, but also cite in third person, and also it should be obfuscated for the peer review. So, what happens is that you write something like "in the author's previous work (yourownname, 2017)…" then that gets censored by yourself or whoever is in charge of the peer review, "in (blank) previous work (blank)…". Now, if you're experienced in reviews you can probably guess it is the author of the paper you're reviewing quoting themselves. But you still don't know who it is, and you could never guess right whether it is Ruth Gotian or not. So you're back to the tweet's situation.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How are you supposed to disclose you wrote it? You just include the authors in the cite. You don't write "as I(we) claimed/proved in [paper]", you wrote "as claimed/proved in [paper]". Who cares if you wrote it or not. It should stand by itself.

Some authors will cite themselves to try and increase their own prominence as a highly cited author, or to create the illusion of broad consensus on a topic that nobody agrees with them on.

[–] oyfrog@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not always—it depends on the publisher for sure, and possibly the field (e.g., physics, chemistry).

In biology, you have several models for peer review. Completely blind reviews where both reviewers and authors are anonymized. You also have semi blind models where the reviewers know the identities of the authors, but the authors don't know reviewers' identities. You also have open reviews where everyone knows one another's identities.

In completely blind and semi-blind models, you occasionally have reviewers that reveal their identity.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

In physics nothing is blinded, and people post their shit to the arxiv when they submit anyway

[–] oyfrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, preprints are becoming more common in bio too.