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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz
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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was going to research this myself, but then I got high.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was gonna write my final report, but then I got high..

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And now I'm shitposting on Lemmy and I know why, yeah-heah...

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lah dah dah, bah dah dah

[–] mech@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The seeds are carried by birds and can survive in a dormant state for years.
Lots of stuff like trees washed away by rivers end up floating in the ocean.
But it's also perfectly feasible that a limited trade happened far in the past.
Polynesians showed that you can reliably cross even the pacific on boats made using stone tools and fire.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Limited trade... There were full on global trade networks through most of human history. Ironically, not as much across the Atlantic, because civilization in the Americas was centered on the West coast

But you find all sorts of stuff turning up everywhere. Not much of it, and most of it is lost to history, but enough to establish that global trade networks were the norm and not the exception

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Humans before the Ice Age were fishing for tuna in the deep sea and were coastal hopping everywhere there are coasts to hop.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Most of human history:

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The swallow may fly south with the sun, or the house-martin or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter; yet these are not strangers to our land.

[–] weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT COCONUTS MIGRATE?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on if it's being carried by an African or European swallow.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 1 points 2 weeks ago

Wouldn’t there be other possible plants that would provide the same alkaloid compounds?

[–] becausechemistry@lemy.lol 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Graduate students famously never make mistakes (like including their own hair in samples) and also never smoke weed. So that couldn’t be it.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They especially don't smoke weed. No sir!

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I walk past this plant all the time and I'm super tempted. I did salvia so I feel like the effects shouldn't freak me out. Rn I just kill them with gloves. We get also get Ricinus, that's not as tempting.

To give an honest answer, it's so fucking invasive I wouldn't be surprised if actually managed to survive a trip across the Atlantic or the pacific.

The question is how? I don't think we'll know until we find the "vessel" that carried it.

[–] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

i've not done datura myself but by all accounts it's much more like benadryl than salvia, to the point that benedryl is described as being "like datura junior". you should check out some of these trip reports and think long and hard about if that experience is worth the risks to you.

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't, every trip report is horrifying, there are better ways to get high, that are also safer.

On top of being a bad experience datura doses are very hard to get right, you are very likely to overdose and die. And like I said, If you don't die, you will get a traumatic experience that can possibly fuck your mental health for decades.

Alternative drugs exist if you want to get high. Please check trip reports and harm reduction sources before trying anything.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Like salvia but worse. And every salvia story is awful.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I also did salvia but I wouldn't touch datura with a 10 ft pole.

[–] tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hi, drug nerd here. Especially psychedelic plants and fungi.

Don't.

And not just because I tried it in my twenties and had a really horrible time. But also because I've learned a lot in the last two decades about the plant, and that potency can vary significantly.

A dose someone took in a trip report where they had mild effects could cause temporary or permanent blindness for you. Because the plant that you are consuming may be a lot more potent than theirs was.

But yes, the trip is horrible. If you want to know what it's like it's a form of delirium. So if you've ever been up for long periods of time and your mind has started playing tricks on you, it's like that. On top of this you also experience urinary retention, which means I spent the night getting up to use the bathroom while delirious and being unable to pee.

And remember I mentioned temporary blindness, I had what you could call the opposite of tunnel vision. I wasn't able to focus and could really only see using my peripheral vision. This effect lasted well into the next day.

And while I was actually high, I was mostly experiencing audio hallucinations and I just wanted it to be over so I tried to sleep through it. About the only interesting anecdote I have is that I got up in the middle of the night to turn off a CD that was on repeat, only to find that I had unplugged the stereo hours before.

No insight aside from don't drink datura.

For a similar and safer visionary effect, try staying up for 2 days. It's basically the same feeling but without all of the side effects. There's also the old formulation of Dramamine, I don't remember what it's called but very similar deliriant but in a measured dose.

And none of those I would really consider fun or especially insightful. Considering most of us are familiar with sleep deprivation anyway.

[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn Central American Swallows!

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They have a higher velocity, you know.