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[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm sorry but isn't this elementary school math?

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago

I’m sorry but isn’t this elementary school math?

No, high school. The Distributive Law isn't taught until Year 7

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It became a meme a few years ago, people would post problems like this and argue about whose was right, as if there were no objective truth. It hurt to watch.

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Arguably, there is no objective truth, since the symbols and rules of mathematics are assigned arbitrarily, and are basically a social contract, just like language!

...Wait, that means there's no objective meaning of "objective", crap

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 3 days ago

Arguably, there is no objective truth

Yes there is, just look in Maths textbooks

since the symbols and rules of mathematics are assigned arbitrarily

The signs are, the rules aren't.

are basically a social contract, just like language!

Nope and nope. It's a tool for calculating things, nothing like a language at all.

no objective meaning of “objective”

There is, in a dictionary, just like the rules of Maths are in Maths textbooks

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

ya this one is super unambiguously PEMDAS, the one that has more of an argument is the one with the division of whether a/b(c) is a / (b * c) or (a / b) * c

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago

ya this one is super unambiguously PEMDAS

Spoiler alert: they all are

the one that has more of an argument is the one with the division of whether a/b(c) is a / (b * c) or (a / b) * c

No it doesn't, The Distributive Law, a(b+c)=(ab+ac), thus a/b(c)=a/(bxc).

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In the rest of the world: yes.

In the US: I highly doubt it.

This is just basic math, if you can't figure this out you're probably 8 years old.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the US: I highly doubt it

The issue in the U.S. isn't Maths textbooks (same rules as everywhere else), it's poor teaching. U.S. Maths teachers aren't required to have any Maths qualifications, and they've been sliding in world rankings for more than a decade now.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but even worse, you're just talking about schools. You forgot about all the kids being home schooled, taught the earth is flat and an imaginary friend created everything in 7 days. Taught by parents who lack proper education themselves.

Also, it's kinda obvious the rules of math aren't different in the US. Even when they use an idiotic measuring system. If people don't know how to use math properly, the issue clearly is the education and not math itself.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but even worse, you’re just talking about schools

I'm talking about anyone at all in the U.S. is allowed to teach Maths without any Maths qualifications

You forgot about all the kids being home schooled

That happens in other countries too, and yet it's the U.S. which has been sliding down the world rankings for more than a decade, the country that doesn't require Maths teachers to have Maths qualifications.

Also, it’s kinda obvious the rules of math aren’t different in the US

That's right, as proven by U.S. Maths textbooks

If people don’t know how to use math properly, the issue clearly is the education and not math itself

Partly right. there's also people who just outright forgot the rules.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Partly right. there's also people who just outright forgot the rules.

It doesn't really matter, who needs math anyway? If the president can claim medicine prices will go down 1200%...

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

who needs math anyway?

Lots of people

If the president can claim medicine prices will go down 1200%

Did you miss seeing all the people who know Maths ridiculing him?

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I was joking. I was being sarcastic. I was making fun of the US president because he doesn't understand the concept op percentages. You know, something you learn during basic math in primary school. All while being the freaking president. A potato as a president is tearing down the already fucked up education system, replacing it with his propaganda.

The president's net approval rating is -16%, up 2.3 points since last week. 41% approve, 57% disapprove, 4% not sure.

Source: The economist

This means only 57% consists of people who knew he was criminal pedophile piece of shit, or recently realized because they trusted his lies over facts before. That also means the rest (except the 1% of people who hold all the wealth and actually love him for getting even more rich at the cost of everyone else, thanks to him) are too dumb to understand what 2+2 is. Also the journalist from The Economist, even though the paper is British, because when you add up those percentages you get a total of a 102%.

By now the movie Idiocracy is no longer a comedy, it's a prediction of the very near future of the US. An optimistic one, because in the movie they didn't kill themselves or blew up the entire world.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I was joking

Ok, fair enough, but you know some of his followers are dead serious about it, right? I've seen Dr. Oz defending him as being correct. A smiley goes a long way

A potato as a president is tearing down the already fucked up education system

Yep, and a large number of his followers think that is a good thing, because they think teachers are brainwashing children 😂

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Many of his religious followers believe Jesus will return and they will go to heaven when there is a total world destruction event, caused by a conflict with Israel and unbelievers. They want to support Israel with loads of weapons, because they want the civilization ending even to happen as soon as possible so they will go to their imaginary God. They are completely metal and fucked up and have nothing to do with facts, reality and science. The followers who are dead serious are greatly misinformed due to his propaganda, due to their only source for news is fox which is also Trump propaganda and because they lack proper education and intelligence, hence again the whole issue.

Yep, and a large number of his followers think that is a good thing, because they think teachers are brainwashing children

It starts to look like a cult. Dismissing science and claiming their leader is God-like, while breaking off ties with the outside.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Probably some backwards-ass red state / red town shenanigans.

Math was always taught in my Blue cities. The atrocities of the US's history was never left out of the curriculum.

We need to actually finish doing reconstruction and fix this country.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fix? It's a duster fire. It may be hard to deal with, but a total collapse and completely rebuilding it feels like the better solution to the problem (so not based on a constitution made in completely different times with muskets and without internet etc).

So you were taught math. What languages did you learn besides English? What history did you learn, just US or also of other countries and the rest of the world? And talking about the rest of the world, how much did you learn about that? Countries, cultures, cities, geographic features like mountains, seas, etc. and how they were formed? What religions were taught about? What about history of music and art?

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

In all fairness, I grew up in a small town in a very red state, but the education system there proved better than larger, more progressive parts of the state. The education I received was likely an outlier and not representative of the norm, but it did teach me that educators in an area do not necessarily mirror the rest of the population.

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Definitely taught in parts of the US, it's a regional thing though

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago

Definitely taught in parts of the US, it’s a regional thing though

It's a how good is your Maths teacher (who isn't required to have any Maths qualifications) question. The rules are the same everywhere.