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This is not a joke. This is genuinely what a significant number of flat earthers believe.
Flat earthers don’t believe in a flat earth. What they actually believe is that Satan is fighting a war for the minds of people, and education is a tool of satan to lead you away from god. All other nonsense they spew stems from that— they don’t believe the earth is flat because evidence shows it, they find evidence to support the earth being flat because the education system, which they believe to be from Satan, tells you it’s spherical.
And most (but not all) flat earthers have moved on to the next conspiracy that supports their central belief (Satan is fighting a war for your mind) and don’t care much about flat earth anymore. Flat earth was never the point, not being swayed by Satan is always the center.
After a few years of marriage, it came to light that my wife thought the earth was flat. It wasn't some religious thing or cult thing, she had no affiliations. She just came to that conclusion based on visual cues in the world (like ground looks flat) and believed it without it ever being challenged in it.
It came up when she mentioned that a plane fkying near the sun must be getting hot, and I'm like Whaa? I explained the sun is so far outside the earth that that plane isn't feeling much different than us. She revealed she though the sun was inside the earth (like we lived in a snow globe on a flat planar surface) and the sun just went down behind the mountains at night like half hour away.
I was stunned. We had a 4hour talk about the earth as a planet and the solar system and how gravity works.
She curled up in a fetal position and had an existental crisis for the rest of the day.
Somehow she missed school for the gravity, solar system etc. And I'd destroyed her entire core belief system; that she had developed herself.
What were your core talking points and structure that you managed to teach gravitational theory and heliocentrism in 4 hrs?
Well I had to explain it as if it were a kids class. We didn't get into deep theory , constants, equations type stuff. Just overall concepts.
Saying earth surface was round and each country gets different day and night sequences etc, she immediate went to why aren't Australians dangling off if they are at the bottom. So we had to go over center of gravity and gravity itself.
Which led to the Sun and moon being outside the earth. And I had to talk about the immense distances and speed of light concepts. (Since she thought she could get to the sun in about 45 minutes)
Then the questions came about why, if the earth rotates for day and night, aren't people flying off. So I had to go over gravity and inertial laws. Referencing something she knew like being in a car and dropping something, it drops relative to you and doesn't fly back at 100km/h ( inertial frame of reference stuff).
She was obviously skeptical still, especially about stars being distant suns.
And then she came to the conclusion of: how did we get here, if we are tiny spec in the universe on a planet. So we touched on evolution theory.
We eventually got her kids solar system books, and watched some good documentaries on netlix about these subjects and the one about the stages the earth has gone through.
She eventually understood the concepts, but still though we were trying to trick her. Until she went skydiving and realized "the air is 3D" ( her words ). All along she saw the sky as a background 2d backdrop on the INSIDE of the snow globe earth.
I don't know how she missed this concept most of her life, I guess her circle just didn't include people that talked about science stuff, and she took her cues from what she could see...flat ground, sky seems far away, sun is tiny but looks like it hits the mountains and water.
Thanks. All I got was to toss all the flat earthers from a really high place.
"Believe in round or die, flatter!"