Voroxpete

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

See, this is an excellent example of the point I just made.

Even when people say "I want prison reform" they inevitably always have some kind of carve out for "Except in the case of X."

Which means you don't actually have a problem with the current system. You just have a problem with who it gets applied to.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Are you claiming that actually everyone in America agrees with you on this point, or are you simply agreeing with me, in a very roundabout way, that talking to Americans about prison reform is incredibly difficult and that you and your friends represent the rare exceptions?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 84 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Study those facial expressions very closely. Look at what's happening here, because this is so indicative of the mindset of racists.

You look at most criminals at their sentencing, you tend to see either resignation, or remorse. There is neither here.

This is shock. This is disbelief. They did monstrous, horrifying things to innocent people, while fully believing that they had an absolute and unquestionable right to do those things.

When a guy robs a gas station, he knows it's a crime. He's simply reasoning that committing this crime is better for him than the alternatives. He knows it's a risk. He knows he will be punished if he is caught.

But these people saw no risk in what they were doing. They believed that the world protect them and celebrate their actions. They believed that it was their right and their imperative to terrorize people of colour.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 18 points 20 hours ago (12 children)

You're correct, but anyone from the US, whether they're on the furthest right or the furthest left, is going to have an incredibly hard time understanding why. Their country is deeply indoctrinated with this notion that anything less than the death penalty is basically a slap on the wrist, and even the progressive segments of their populace have mostly failed to ever meaningfully address or deconstruct this sentiment. Left/right disagreements over justice in the US tend to look more like disagreements over which things you should get put in prison for life for, rather than positing that such extensive prison terms being normal across the board might not be healthy for a society.

What this couple did is horrific, and it deserves a very serious penalty, and the problem then becomes that because the bar for "Very serious penalty" is set at "Spend most of your life in prison", arguing for anything less than that feels like siding with these monsters against their victims.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The good news is that pretty soon there won't be any foreign tourism to the US, so no one will have to enforce this.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Knew what it was before I even clicked on it. 😁

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm aware. That's not what I meant by "This is not a joke."

Also the hint is that OP said they meant it as a joke. But, yeah, everything you said too.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 121 points 1 week ago (36 children)

This is not a joke. This is genuinely what a significant number of flat earthers believe.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

The following can all be true:

  • The Democrats are a right wing neoliberal party.
  • The Democrats are the most left-wing option that is realistically available to American voters.
  • The Democrats can be pushed further left if American progressives work to do so.
  • The Democrats - at the party level - will resist such a change, but that resistance can still be overcome.
  • In the long term, massive structural overhauls and the downfall of capitalism are the only things that will save America and the world
  • In the near term, voting consistly and enthusiastically for the least bad option can still protect vulnerable groups from harm and create changes that lay the groundwork for those structural overhauls.
[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They didn't say it's not defined, they said it's not a valid name. Most languages don't allow function names to start with a number, so 5 literally cannot be a function if that's the case.

But that's assuming this isn't some really obscure language.