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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

~~it's~~

~~a badly~~

~~written~~

~~math~~

~~problem~~

Seriously, every time this comes up and everyone makes a huge deal out of it, I keep thinking, "none of the people writing these better be teachers." You have to be more clear than this.

Edit: ok, not so much this one. I just read the words and assumed the math problem was one of the ambiguous ones. Stand down, soldiers.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it’s

a badly

written

math

problem

No it isn't.

none of the people writing these better be teachers

I am, and it's written correctly

You have to be more clear than this

It's already 100% clear to everyone who remembers the rules of Maths

assumed the math problem was one of the ambiguous ones

NONE of them are ambiguous

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just patently untrue, but I'm no longer interested in this.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 days ago

Just patently untrue,

Maths textbooks are patently untrue?? 😂 I guess you think Earth is flat too

[–] BetterDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

no

it's

fucking

not

This is just basic algebra, this is actually how the problems in algebra I are written. What the fuck?

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's reasonable if you consider the kind of physical situation it might represent.

You visit a farm and there are 2 unpackaged apples. There are also 5 packages that hold 8 apples but 5 have been removed from each. How many apples are there?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In fairness, this one isn't nearly as bad as most of the ambiguous problems that get passed around on Facebook with multiple parentheticals and such.

Your word problem is excellent.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago

most of the ambiguous problems that get passed around

There aren't any ambiguous ones, and anyone who thinks they're ambiguous has forgotten the rules of Maths.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

how should it have been written?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope, you're right. I just read the words and assumed it was one of the terrible ones.

This one is just...math.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This one is just…math

They ALL are

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They’re definitely not

Says person who definitely can't give a single example of any that aren't 🙄

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't take homework from insufferably smug jerks on the Internet. Have a good one.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t take homework from insufferably smug jerks on the Internet

Nor Maths teachers apparently, which would explain a lot. Hilarious that you say goodbye when you can't back up what you said with a single example

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Believe what you like. Including that all mathematics communication and education is flawless and incapable of any ambiguity, apparently.

But for your own growth as a person, I recommend you chew on this: the people who write these "questions" to put on Facebook are exploiting the exact same mindset that made you decide that insulting my intelligence was the best way to have this conversation, and using it to get a massive amount of rage-baity engagement. They're not teachers trying to educate. They're scammers trying to build up a following so that they can execute a scam.

Actual math educators, on the other hand, are moving away from using the "PEMDAS" (or "BEDMAS") acronyms because of the ambiguity inherent in them, and using "GEMS" (or "GEMA") instead. Partially because, if even smart people who know PEMDAS can get confused, the acronym must not be all that useful.

Anyway. You're trying to make me mad, and for a minute it worked. But I'm over it. Again--have a good one.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Believe what you like.

Same as all Mathematicians, textbooks and proofs.

Including that all mathematics communication and education is flawless and incapable of any ambiguity, apparently

Yep

made you decide that insulting my intelligence was the best way to have this conversation

you were the one who decided to refuse to look in Maths textbooks 🙄

Actual math educators, on the other hand, are moving away from using the “PEMDAS” (or “BEDMAS”) acronyms

No they aren't.

because of the ambiguity inherent in them

There isn't any ambiguity in them 🙄

using “GEMS” (or “GEMA”) instead

Nope. No Maths textbooks are using that.

the acronym must not be all that useful.

And if that is true, then GEMA would be completely useless 🙄

You’re trying to make me mad,

No I'm not.

Again–have a good one

Again, you still couldn't provide a shred of evidence to support your argument

[–] BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not this one, there is no ambiguity here. Order of operations are all good.

[–] Quatlicopatlix@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea that is true but a lot of these questions use the division sign when they should just use a fraction and everything would have been easy to understand. If i see the devision sign and there are more than 2 elements like x=a÷b+5 i cry because if they just used x=a/(b+5) or x=a/b +5 it is just visible no ambiguity. (a/b as in a over b, idk how to do fractions on the phone if you know tell me!)

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago

use the division sign when they should just use a fraction

There's nothing wrong with using a Division sign, and anyone who thinks there is has forgotten the rules of Maths.

it is just visible no ambiguity

There's NEVER any ambiguity. It's what the rules of Maths are for!

a/b as in a over b

No, that's a divided by b. (a/b) is a over b.

idk how to do fractions on the phone if you know tell me!

No need to, just use Brackets for Fractions.