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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 121 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's not "remarkably safe".

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

"remarkably safe" as in one can make a remark about it being safe.

Though...

Only if one looks only at one tiny teensy narrow aspect of biology (like humans don't have the shikimate pathway), or if one does not lie or speak from ignorance.

But even that GRAS by virtue of humans not having a shikimate pathway, is utter bunk in the whole of our health. Half our gut buddies that we depend on for a functional immune system and digestive system, do have a shikimate pathway. Not to mention the catalytic carcinogenic effects of glyphosate, or, even if you get it dry enough to have its breakdown be expedited enough to a short enough half-life within the lifetime of (typically >90% wet bodied) human , to get past those catalytic carcinogenic effects, the breakdown products are not good for us either... nor for the biosphere. Cumulative harms.

But hey, don't worry, everybody.

The corporation has genetically modified species that can survive Glyphosatiation. So all you need to do to survive is to have those patented genes, so the corporation owns you, then you'll be fiiiiiiine. It's all part of the plan. Codex Alimentarius. The plan to own all life on earth. Yaaaaaaay, capitalism! Yaaaaaaay, monopoly! Yaaaaaaay, daddy corporation is here to save us, by owning us. Don't you all feel relieved that it's just a protection racket threatening your life, and all human life, and all life, just an anthrocide threat and an ecocide threat, to coerce us into being owned, rather than the certain end of [nearly] all life on earth? Don't you feel relieved? Phew. I know I do. I thought for sure we were in a lot of trouble there. }( ¬)_( ¬){ We'll be owned and be happy.

Gee that's a nice life and biosphere you have there. It'd be a shame if anything bad were to happen to it. Pay no attention to the solution space upstream. I have a jab I'd like to sell to you. Those are normal contrails.

... Brutal jokes for brutal times.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 17 points 2 days ago

I think by "remarkably safe" he meant "appealingly harmful". It's understandable, I mix those up all the time.

... Then again maybe the purpose of making the meme like that is provoke exactly this kind of comment.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmao. I think Monsanto is pouring money into Lemmy because holy shit there are some brown noses bootlickers defending daddy Monsanto.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Monsanto sold to Bayer to avoid public scrutiny, don't forget your healthy does of Bayer disparagement.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't bayer recently sell to another company? I seem to recall a neighbor who is retired from them telling me he can't shop at the bayer store anymore.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 hours ago

Didn’t bayer recently sell to another company?

Heh. So Monsanto's now like a game of hot potato [or latchkomb[1]]?

Positive sign.

[1: "There is a popular Moclan game called latchkum that we play from time-to-time. I do not believe you would enjoy it; it is not for humans."]

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 83 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 126 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They literally just retracted the 2000s paper saying it doesn't cause cancer because it was found out Monsanto funded the researchers and got to approve and remove sections.

This meme is rubbish and belongs in the trash.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All roadsl lead to Rome, and all chemical deregulation leads to Monsanto.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

You mean Bayer.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Its safe when made in VERY VERY VERY specific conditions. Specifically temperature. If its off by even a couple degrees it will create another compound that is deadly. That is why it is unsafe, because its is too easy to fuck up. Its why when researchers tested, it was fine. Cause they were following the instructions to a t, and could reliably replicate the conditions.

This video covers it. The first half is about the pesticide, the rest is about why farmers can't plant their own seeds.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Non video link? I wasn't able to find anything that sounded relevant by searching.

In general chemical synthesis is indeed dependent on conditions...

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You you're literally voluntarily choosing ignorance.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social -3 points 2 days ago

Sorry I value my time

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

No, it's actually remarkably safe

[(credible) citation needed]

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Who needs insects anyway?

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well we should regulate or subsidise pesticide free agriculture.

But right now we can't feed everyone without it.

Well we still can't feed everyone in the whole world because we don't want to, but then we really don't have enough food

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Indoor clean farms are pesticide free. Currently only economical for some crops, of course, but likely a good option in the long run for sustainable food production in general without using up all our land.