They should both be banned
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Come to Dearborn if you want to hear the call to prayer and while you are at it, stop your fucking crying "RussianResponse 47"
yeah, but that's different, because catholics are white, and muslims are brown. So it's completely different.
I dont think i would mind. I love the church bells from down the street
When my local church rings the bell five times, I know it is time to go home. Do the Islamic calls serve the same purpose?
No? Oh, then I'm not interested.
i think in this particular case it's not much different, but generally the muezzin calls five times each day plus a sixth bonus time on fridays for the jumu'ah. this can be even more annoying than the christian stupid sunday morning bell, when everyone is still hungover; that is, if they actually do it from the minaret, but they can also use messengers, radio, etc.
Some churches ring three times a day for daily prayer. Dunno how common that is in the US.
I live near a town with a street that was named "church street", not because the church was on it, but seven. The town as a whole has at least 17 that I know of.
About half of them have bells, and of those, 5 ring every hour on the hour all day and night, one rings every hour from 8am to 8pm, two or three ring 3x a day (sunrise, noon, sunset) and the others either don't have bells or don't use them regularly enough for me to notice.
I can hear the chiming from my back yard, which is several miles away from the city limits.
I don't know how people put up with it, honestly. It's nothing to do with my dislike for religion in general, I just hate all that noise, and would not be able to live close to them.
I do think my town is a bit of an anomaly though.
I'm not religious but I've lived near both and the Muslim call to prayer is sooooooo much worse. Not even just the frequency but the call itself - the first time it went off, I muted my music thinking it was some kind of ominous warning. I mean no offense but it sounds like pained wailing.
The bells are quite pleasant imo. But now I live by a Jewish temple and there's no sound, I like that the most
Either is fucking annoying. I don’t want to listen to your religious bullshit. Keep it inside the building.
I hear that Muslims think that anyone that is not blessed in their religion, even infants, will go to hell. They have a single religious leader that has absolute control over their theocratic state and has influence over leaders from around the world (historically, even power over them). They have a history of holy wars, torture of those of other faith, and holding back any knowledge and scientific progress that challenges their doctrine. They adorn their holy places with devices of torture and execution. And they practice ritualistic cannibalism of a holy man regularly, even feeding it to their children.
Oh sorry... that's Catholics.
Personally I think church bells are really annoying too and I'm super glad I live somewhere where they don't do that regularly.
I live next to a Mosque in Europe. The call to prayer is super chill and notably less invasive than church bells.
Church bells cut through double glazing. Call to prayer does not.
In that the primary function of the bells (at least where I live) is the telling of time, not religious broadcasting. There is no inherent message in the chiming of the clocks. In general, the bells chime every full hour during during daytime, and clock towers aren't necessarily exclusive to churches either.
There is certainly an argument to be made however that they should be removed due to being redundant, intrusive and outdated.
If I had a choice between both being allowed and both prohibited, the choice would be prohibiting both, always. It's a question of freedom from religion - we shouldn't have to live with religious propaganda being blasted into our homes.
Or the local Methodist church that plays a loudspeaker hymn at noon everyday.
The difference is that some mosques use some shitty ass loud speaker and the guy doing the call can't hold a note. Like it's fine if they only do it once a week but a daily call is just way too much. Like church bells are annoying too but at least the sound is way more pleasant. Seriously if Muslims in the west want to be more accepted they need to take into account that they live in a non-Muslim majority country and non-muslims do not need the call to prayer and many find it annoying as hell. Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street, can't just force other people to accept your traditions if you aren't willing to accommodate to their traditions too. Like even many churches in my western country have stopped ringing the bells frequently.
Yeah and the morning call to prayer can be a bit much when you're trying to sleep in.
It feels like it should be possible to have an app on your phone that will make the all of the religious sounds you need to hear, so not sure why it needs to be blasted throughout a neighbourhood. In the past when people had no way of knowing when it was time to go to the Mosque, having a sound everyone in a town could hear made sense, but you really don't need to wake up the entire neighbourhood at 6am to let a small number of people in that community know it's time to pray.