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Children as young as 11 who demonstrate misogynistic behaviour will be taught the difference between pornography and real relationships, as part of a multimillion-pound investment to tackle misogyny in England’s schools, the Guardian understands.

On the eve of the government publishing its long-awaited strategy to halve violence against women and girls (VAWG) in a decade, David Lammy told the Guardian that the battle “begins with how we raise our boys”, adding that toxic masculinity and keeping girls and women safe were “bound together”.

As part of the government’s flagship strategy, which was initially expected in the spring, teachers will be able to send young people at risk of causing harm on behavioural courses, and will be trained to intervene if they witness disturbing or worrying behaviour.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's a cool argument you're having with a thing nobody said.

Educating children about sex in general is educating children about sex (and nobody here has argued against it or equated it with being anti-porn).

There is a rising trend in European lefitsm, and particularly in European feminism, that argues that all porn is inherently pernicious and ultimately should not exist.

Note those are two separate statements.

You definitely dabbled in the second of those statements when you claimed that "that [can't] be considered safe for anyone". Whether you meant to say what you said is in your head, but as presented that slope is both mighty slippery AND very consistent with some of the very anti sex-work trend I'm talking about. The false equivalence and misquote at the top of your response doesn't lead me to believe you're treating this "objectively", either.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

LOL

As I said already, if you have any doubt you can do your own research like I did instead of trying to confirm your beliefs in a random comments section.

Also I'll point out that your arguing about leftism, feminism, terfism and whatnot like you feel persecuted when we are only talking about educating children on the difference between porn and reality and about factual (that, again, you can look up) psychological implications of consuming porn, is all incredibly weird.

Is porn that important for you? Is it such a meaningful part of your life that you can't even stand criticism?

Or do you think porn is some kind of free expression of sexuality that should be protected?

I like drugs and I use them, but I don't lose my mind whenever a study finds out that this or the other substance is harming me.

What the actual fuck mate?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I, once again, did not say or imply that I am persecuted in any way.

I do think porn is free expression, of sexuality and otherwise, and should be protected about as much as any other form of free expression. Which is not universally and without limit, before you try that one.

And all of that is not the same as saying I "can't stand criticism" about it. Which I didn't say or think. I will actively, aggressively criticise actual porn, both as a media product and as an industry.

Once again, the strawmanning and talking points aren't doing much to disprove the notion that anti-porn activism will become the new TERF-like trojan horse wedge among ostensible leftist movements going forward. People don't like to talk about those, but they are bad and this is incoming.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Again you keep talking about leftism and such, but you should invest the time you are wasting with this empty walls of text in reading some research on porn.

Would be definitely healthier than watching porn itself or fueling your paranoia against whoever you think is your enemy.

Good luck!

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 15 minutes ago

Hey, if you just happen to be a run of the mill traditional prudish conservative that would actually be mildly heartening. I genuinely don't care about those continuing to run that line.

Still not wrong about the underlying issue, though. And for the record, I don't think anti-porn so-called "abolitionists" are "my enemy". I think all left of center forces are my allies, personally. The problem is single issue wedges used as hostile propaganda do work, as seen very clearly in the case of trans issues.