cypherpunks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outdoor_advertising#Regulations billboards are banned in several cities and, surprisingly, in four entire states of the US.

Obviously the criminal here is the person who asked the question and posted a screenshot of the answer.

Thanks. Sorry to see my assumption was correct; that does indeed sound a lot like when they were called OSSO two decades ago.

Notably absent from the list of things they might open source soon is their current "Lipstick" UI, the graphical shell itself.

All of the stuff they plan to open source are things I didn't even figure out were still closed from my 5-10 minutes of research before writing my previous comments. It is difficult to estimate the number (do you know how?) of other small closed components which they can dribble out over the next years to maintain users' false hope that they will one day have an actually-open-source operating system.

we’ll see though

my advice is: don't hold your breath.

Sorry if this sounds bitter, but it's because I am - I naively believed that OSSO might actually ship a free OS one day (to be fair they didn't say they would either, but they helped us believe that they might... in effect saying "we'll see" for years while releasing bits here and there) and it was frustrating to realize that it was never a real possibility.

Got a link about it? Have they just said they plan to make it "more" open, or do they actually plan to make the full OS actually be free software, like AOSP, pmOS, or most of the other things on, eg, the pinephone software page? (note that sailfish is also listed there, but iiuc its UI and some other bits remain closed-source).

It is the direct descendant of Nokia's OSSO ("Open Source Software Operations") division, both in terms of people and software.

Unfortunately they've been saying on and off that they plan to slowly open source more of it literally since they first started... which was [checks calendar] now 20 years ago. So, I lost my optimism that they would ever finish opening it quite a while ago.

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and we’ll open source the hardware and software interface specs so anyone can design, 3D-print, or produce their own modules

oh cool, people can make open source "other half" add-ons for the proprietary "first half" of the phone itself 🙄

i wonder what percentage of jolla customers still mistakenly believe SailfishOS to be open source? (most of the ones i've met did...)

Microchess was first commercially available in 1976, but chess software was being published long before that.

See also: https://www.chessprogramming.org/History#Famous_Historic_Computers_and_Programs

edit: this post title said 'que' when i first posted this comment, but was later edited