Eldritch

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's why you as a society isolate and exclude them. Peer pressure is a powerful thing. More powerful in a general sense than the law often times.

Not gonna vaccinate your child? Then they are going to be put in special classes with other unvaccinated. They'll love that. Going to a restaurant, vaccinated or unvaccinated seating? Oh, what, you don't want to sit out on the patio in the snow? Then just show us proof of vaccination. Subway? Back to the unvaccinated car. Etc. At the doctors office? Oh yes, the unvaccinated waiting room is outside. They'll learn.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago

That's because most of the ones you've met are big L Libertarian. Not actually libertarian, but capitalist cosplaying as libertarian.

You can't have flat, granular, answerable government. Without business being similarly structured. Otherwise the business became the oppressive government.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but you wouldn't consider yourself libertarian or anarchist.

If a society can't value an individuals choice. Then why should anyone value societies choice? It's an education issue. If a society can't trust the decisions of those inside it. It's because society already failed.

Taking away your grandfather's drivers license isn't analogous to forcing things on society at large. We took away my father's as well. He's still technically legal to drive. But he's not safe and insurance crazy expensive. But not everyone his age is in that same boat. Ultimately we should have less people driving anyway.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 13 points 1 day ago

Limited resources and isolation imposed both internally and externally. It's not out of the question.

Though with how much such governments suppress information, and others push misinformation. We may never know for sure.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. Education is a better term I agree.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Libertarians and anarchists. Yes. Left or right they're both generally going to agree with that. But don't sleep on the language surrounding it.

Those on the right believe people should be forced to suffer, to subsidize the privilege of the wealthy. Where those on the left value consent and respect an individual's choice not to be a party to a system even if it's to their detriment. Though we would let them change their minds and consent in a heart beat. Since it would still benefit society.

Voluntarily contributing funds or time to such services should be viewed and treated as community service. And those that would refuse despite capability, not part of the community.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago (12 children)

They may indeed be stupid, but I don't strictly disagree with them. I think any intelligent person would want to contribute to such a system. But ideally shouldn't be forced.

Forcing these people is part of the reason we can't have nice things. They should be free to struggle and suffer to their hearts desire. Largely cut off and excluded from society according to their wishes. That will be the only way we will ever get such a system. And the only way they will learn the value of it.

It's going to and to some extent already is starting in places like California. Towns and States should work to take care of their own. As well as like minded neighbors. Those places will continue to grow and flourish. And places that don't, will suffer, wither, and die. And that's okay. We shouldn't be subsidizing bad behavior through force. They need consequences to their behavior.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 17 points 1 day ago

Yep. The main reason to use bourgeoisie would be to seem smart or in discussion about materials that use it or you're French. Outside that, common native language translations are always more effective.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 54 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Most of them understand. They're just selfish and think that they will be and should be the ones deciding for everyone. When corrupt businesses will always be as corrupt as the government if not more so. Considering how they tend to always take it over.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 4 days ago

True though I'm a pretty big fan of Lucy Lawless, Taika Watiti, and Jermaine Clement. I hold myself to a higher standard. 😆

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I think you're right. They aren't just nasal Aussies no matter how close proximity they are. It sucks no matter where it happens. I hate that us Americans have gotten so desensitized to it. There's definitely middle ground to work from on reducing mass murders including gun violence.

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