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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 3 hours ago

The proletariat must not be disarmed

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Wow its like australia is a real country and not solely controlled by a cabal of oil companies, mining companies, arms manufacturers, car companies, finance corporations, and tech bros.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

Just the mining companies, mostly.

[–] gerowen@piefed.social 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Disarming all the people who "didn't" shoot up a beach won't bring those victims back, and it won't stop motivated extremists from doing it again. The kind of folks who commit atrocities like this just won't bother participating in the buyback.

I'm curious what kind of indicators might have been present that police or others in the community might have missed; violent rhetoric on social media, a sudden interest in guns by somebody who previously wasn't into them, etc.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 8 minutes ago

We disarmed the UK after two shootings. And restricted certain fertilisers after bombings

Now they just use knives which are a lot less lethal

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 51 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wait... Governments can act swiftly and decisively when an issue arises?

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 4 points 3 hours ago

I mean if they did the same in america, americans would just buy 10 more guns out of spite.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They’ve done this before and it was hugely successful.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Well, they only got 20% of the guns that time, and the vast majority of them were .22 "pea rifles" and shotguns. In fact only 204 automatic weapons were turned in (for a rate of 1 in 1,000). Also they had about 3.2 million registered firearms before the ban, which reduced to about 2.2 million, only to now be back around 3.2 million, but with a lower % of Aussies owning them.

Also violence was already on the downswing before the buyback, both firearm and non-firearm homicides generally lowered from around '79 on, though while firearm suicides decreased, non-firearm suicides increased.

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Don't get me wrong I'm sure the bans effected the rates a little, but not much and they were already decreasing over a decade earlier. It seems that AUS is just not that murderous, and that those who would have shot themselves seem to have just found another way.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Victoria already has some amnesty bins that could be repurposed.

[–] C1pher@lemmy.world -4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Sure, buy back LEGAL guns from people, so they cant defend themselves against ILLEGAL guns and thugs operating them. There is no logic there, just nonsence and probably greed, so they can sell those guns elsewhere for profit.

Decisions made by retards.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

except you're logic fails in the past. The dude with the gun got subdued by the unarmed dude. And in America a bunch of dudes with guns with license to kill didn't stop the killing of children in Uvalde.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The guns used in the attack where legal.

[–] C1pher@lemmy.world -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

“Legal” is very broad. Was it really according to ALL procedures? Was there insider who let things slip? Were there background checks? You wont know all the details. I stand by what I said. Taking legal guns doesnt fucking help anybody, it only makes it worse.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 3 hours ago

Legal means legal. It means one of them had permits for the guns. People in Australia have shotguns and rifles for hunting same as everywhere else. You don't need ISIS people inside the administration to get permits. Taking away legal guns used in those attacks would absolutely help.

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

Why so many down votes ?

Do you guys realize that legal guns cost like $600, and far more than $1000 for sport competitors…?

The gov will be like the best I can do is $20 and a sticker 🏅