Must be nice to have a working justice system.
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let see how the tankies and russian propaganda accounts explain this
they're gonna use this amazing new invention called lying your ass off
We need to do this to every Nazi worldwide. I hope I live long enough to see them held accountable for all the pain and suffering they've caused
Agreed, Estonia should take precedent with this and enjail every member of their far right party with 11 seats in parliament (socdems have 38 for reference). Or they should close the Israeli embassy they just opened last month in the country for the first time in history.
One wonders why to the Estonian government the only dangerous Nazis are pro-Russian ones, but not their local Nazis or the Zionist Nazis.
because you're living in a paranoid rabbit hole.
If by our far right party you mean EKRE, those guys have also been suspected of being Russian assets. Hell, I still suspect that they've collaborated with Putin in the past at least. If there was real proof of them committing treason, they'd be behind bars already.
Or they should close the Israeli embassy they just opened last month in the country for the first time in history.
Agreed. Unfortunately I think being a country as small as we are, our politicians are afraid of angering the US :/ Not that I'd even consider the US to be a reliable ally.
Why do you need evidence of them being linked to Russia to propose banning them? Are Estonian Nazis not as bad as Russian Nazis?
What Estonian law have they broken?
Peterson has been taking Russian money and instructions from Russia on how to destabilize Estonia. EKRE, for all we know, may be doing it completely willingly. They're not breaking any laws that I'm aware of, they want to change laws for the worse. In a democracy, if they get voted in, they unfortunately have the right to propose changes and vote on those proposals.
Luckily EKRE isn't too successful. And their popularity isn't as big as it used to be, though still too big for my liking.
And how big exactly was the Pro-Russian party?
Treason is a political definition. Catalonian pro-independence politicians in my homeland (Spain) have been judged for treason because independence is seen as a threat to the country by the government. My point is: why isn't being a Nazi considered threatening to Estonia and considered treason?
why isn’t being a Nazi considered threatening to Estonia and considered treason?
Because they've never went out and said Estonia shouldn't be an independent nation, nor is there proof of their connection to foreign interests.
You're allowed to hold any opinion in Estonia. As long as laws aren't being broken, you ain't going to jail. Their opinions are vile and hateful, but they have not directly, provably harmed anyone, and any conspiracies of theirs seem to still be secret enough that they've not been prosecuted yet.
Being a nazi becomes illegal when they start calling for harm of other people. But their platform is one of "change the immigration laws" and "change the family law", not "kill the immigrants" and "kill the gays". At least publicly they haven't gone out to say any of that. And in Estonia, a person is innocent until proven guilty. Why do you think it took so long to prosecute the head of the Pro-Russian party if it was known long ago what a fuckface he was? The Helme family unfortunately aren't as stupid as him. They're every bit as evil, they play stupid a LOT, but they don't break laws, at least not provably.
Fair point, but they often do talk about not liking gays and not liking LGBTQ+ people overall. Most are to my knowledge racist aswell considering they very much hate people of color. I feel like EKRE is one of the most hateful parties we have here.
I speak as an estonian.
This is how you handle traitors.
Good! Now let’s hope other European countries wake up and do the same with their Russian shills (looking at you, Fico)
ay, to be free of Salvini. i dream of the day
Considering the neighbours elected Babis... Not holding my breath...
Europe should do this not just to pro-Russian far right, but to all far-right. Unfortunately, it seems that to European governments, local Nazis are acceptable, or even foreign ones if they align with US interests (Estonia opened its first Israeli embassy last month)
Wow a country that understands what folding to a tyrant means!
Everybody in the US is in the early stages of getting their PhDs in the subject.
Wow a country that understands what folding to a tyrant means!
Estonia literally opened their first Zionist embassy last month... Doesn't sound that convincing to me.
Fuck. YES! THAT'S how it's DONE!
Everyone please take notes from ESTONIA!
Huh, I wonder why Estonia isn't doing this with the local far-right parties...
See, the U.S should've done exactly this when Russian shills/agents were taking over our offices, knowingly aligning policies, and ordering violent acts in collaboration with the Russian warmongering regime, in order to undermine our independence.
Sounds like Estonia nipped it in the bud.
It would have been nice to see these NRA fools convicted of treason. Instead, the debate was about tax exempt status. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/nra-acted-as-russian-asset-in-run-up-to-2016-democratic-senator-says
Isn't AIPAC the biggest lobby in the US?
After he's served his 14 years, expel him to russia, so he can wallow with the orcs and enjoy the system he tried to force on Estonia.
You can rightfully have hatred towards the Russian government for being far right nationalist and militaristic, but calling Russians "orcs" is dehumanizing and racist. Hope you reconsider that.
Nope. Any ruzzians serving Pootin the Mighty Midget, are orcs.
One wonders why political repression against the far right is only utilized when it's pro-Russia, but not against the currently 11 seats of far-right in the Estonian government. If they're pro-EU Nazis they're ok?
Estonia is concerned with far-right influence from third countries but literally opened an Isntreali embassy last month?
If you've been watching the news for the last, idk, 4 or 5 years, Aivo Peterson has been pretty much advocating for Estonia to be part of Russia.
If you've got proof of EKRE committing treason, please send it to KAPO and/or the prokuratuur. They may just do something. Would be lovely. But for now... We all know in our hearts that EKRE is a bunch of bastards, but I don't think there's any real proof of them committing treason. I suspect they must've taken Russian money to get started, but I don't have proof of it.
Being far-right or far-left isn't illegal in Estonia. Treason is.
I'm aware that being a Nazi in Estonia is not illegal, that's exactly my point. Treason is just a political definition, the Estonian government just happens to decide that taking money from Russia is treason, but taking money from Israel is not. My point is that all fucking Nazis should be banned from politics and reformed in jail, and not exclusively pro-Russian ones. Aren't you afraid of Nazis in your government?
My point is that all fucking Nazis should be banned from politics and reformed in jail, and not exclusively pro-Russian ones
Yes, as soon as it can be proven that they've done something illegal. What DO you know about the Estonian nazis? Kaalep has for sure said some nasty things, but tbh he was WASTED that time I met him (not willingly! I didn't know that girl from my course in uni was a fucking Sinine Äratus member trying to get into real politics and that the friend she wanted to meet up with would be a fucking nazi lmao) and there was nobody around to record anything. In public he HINTS at being a nazi, but never have I heard him say he wants to exterminate Jews in public. He also got expelled from EKRE. Not sure if it was for being too nazi, or not nazi enough. Madison is the second worst IMO and he actually left EKRE because "it had changed too much for his liking". Again, not sure if too nazi or not nazi enough for him. But he has a master's degree in law so I'm pretty sure he knows EXACTLY how to toe the line between legal and illegal speech.
Both EKRE and the brand new ERK are full of assholes, but clearly there were disagreements on how nazi they should be. Reportedly those with the biggest nazi-boner were the Helme family (ironically, they're also the ones most commonly associated with pro-Kremlin views - Putin LOVES propping up nazis around the world). With this rift, I don't think either party will do too well in the upcoming election in 2027.
There's an unfortunate reason that we can't make any single political leaning illegal: If we do, we lose freedom of speech. The nazis are already complaining that they're being censored. Right now everyone's laughing at them. You start putting them in jail for their opinions rather than their actions, and suddenly they're no longer the butt of a joke, they're martyrs.
Aren’t you afraid of Nazis in your government?
I'm afraid of what our society has become that people vote for them more than anything.
I'll be honest with you. I'll be fine under the Estonian nazi rule. I'm straight and white. Some of my friends are not straight, or not Estonian. If EKRE ever gets a big enough majority to influence things, our only saving grace is that it takes time to enact new laws and these friends can escape in that time. At the same time, the nazis, unlike the liberals, aren't calling for privatized healthcare and education. They're running on pure xenophobia, not with the addition of unfettered capitalism like in the US.
Still, I'd get the fuck out of the country too if that happens. Not because I refuse to fight nazis, but because if this happens it means that enough people WANTED it to happen, so it's obvious that I no longer have anything in common with the majority of my own country.
But mostly it's all saber rattling from them. They had 19 seats and they were in the coalition, and they did jack shit. They're really just a populist party and when Putin was arranging the refugee crisis to push for increased xenophobia in Europe, they got popular by saying shit a lot of people were thinking. Then it turned out that the massive amount of 10 or 11 or whatever refugees we took in didn't affect anything, and they just looked like idiots to most of the country. The only reason they got 17 votes in the election after that is that the other parties fumbled it even harder, to the point we're back to voting for fucking neoliberals primarily.
In 2027 I will probably vote for SDE despite my disdain for Läänemets. I imagine most people I know will vote for Isamaa or something similar, purely because they don't really promise to rock any boats. Some people vote for EKRE because they're populist, but not too many. Luckily we have very good education and that sorta slows down the nazi popularity. But if EKRE gets a significant bump in their seat count, I WILL be making an exit plan, probably for a mediterranean climate.
There's an unfortunate reason that we can't make any single political leaning illegal: If we do, we lose freedom of speech
Apparently yoy can make a political leaning illegal, your country is putting in jail politicians for being pro-Russian. The article on the post claims they accepted a Russia-paid trip to occupied areas of Ukraine. To your government, that is treason. To your government, being overtly xenophobic and running a party with your entire ideology being the hatred of ethnical minorities, LGBTQ and women's rights, isn't punishable by law. Hate speech laws do exist in place in Estonia that could be used to crack down on these people, it just so happens that the government doesn't care about Nazis as much as it cares about a minor pro-Russian party. I'm saying that this is wrong: you can't tolerate the intolerance. Nazis should very much be politically repressed and not allowed to run on elections, their views shouldn't be aired on media, and vocal ones should be prosecuted for hate speech.
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Dude looks like he has a huge growth on his neck.