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One of the leaders of the pro-Russian Koos party and Estonian citizen Aivo Peterson was sentenced to 14 years in prison for treason by Harju District Court on Thursday.

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The trial, which began in November 2023, dealt with allegations of treason against Estonian citizens Peterson and Dmitri Rootsi, as well as claims that Peterson and Russian citizen Andrei Andronov acted to undermine Estonia's independence.

The charges were connected to meetings with Russian politicians, aligning policy positions, the organization of an independent civil defense organization, and a Russian-funded press trip to occupied Ukraine.

According to the indictment, Peterson and Rootsi, based on instructions received from Russia, knowingly and in an organized manner assisted Russia and people acting on behalf of Russian authorities in non-violent activities directed against the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Republic of Estonia from October 2022 to March 10, 2023.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you've been watching the news for the last, idk, 4 or 5 years, Aivo Peterson has been pretty much advocating for Estonia to be part of Russia.

If you've got proof of EKRE committing treason, please send it to KAPO and/or the prokuratuur. They may just do something. Would be lovely. But for now... We all know in our hearts that EKRE is a bunch of bastards, but I don't think there's any real proof of them committing treason. I suspect they must've taken Russian money to get started, but I don't have proof of it.

Being far-right or far-left isn't illegal in Estonia. Treason is.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm aware that being a Nazi in Estonia is not illegal, that's exactly my point. Treason is just a political definition, the Estonian government just happens to decide that taking money from Russia is treason, but taking money from Israel is not. My point is that all fucking Nazis should be banned from politics and reformed in jail, and not exclusively pro-Russian ones. Aren't you afraid of Nazis in your government?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

My point is that all fucking Nazis should be banned from politics and reformed in jail, and not exclusively pro-Russian ones

Yes, as soon as it can be proven that they've done something illegal. What DO you know about the Estonian nazis? Kaalep has for sure said some nasty things, but tbh he was WASTED that time I met him (not willingly! I didn't know that girl from my course in uni was a fucking Sinine Äratus member trying to get into real politics and that the friend she wanted to meet up with would be a fucking nazi lmao) and there was nobody around to record anything. In public he HINTS at being a nazi, but never have I heard him say he wants to exterminate Jews in public. He also got expelled from EKRE. Not sure if it was for being too nazi, or not nazi enough. Madison is the second worst IMO and he actually left EKRE because "it had changed too much for his liking". Again, not sure if too nazi or not nazi enough for him. But he has a master's degree in law so I'm pretty sure he knows EXACTLY how to toe the line between legal and illegal speech.

Both EKRE and the brand new ERK are full of assholes, but clearly there were disagreements on how nazi they should be. Reportedly those with the biggest nazi-boner were the Helme family (ironically, they're also the ones most commonly associated with pro-Kremlin views - Putin LOVES propping up nazis around the world). With this rift, I don't think either party will do too well in the upcoming election in 2027.

There's an unfortunate reason that we can't make any single political leaning illegal: If we do, we lose freedom of speech. The nazis are already complaining that they're being censored. Right now everyone's laughing at them. You start putting them in jail for their opinions rather than their actions, and suddenly they're no longer the butt of a joke, they're martyrs.

Aren’t you afraid of Nazis in your government?

I'm afraid of what our society has become that people vote for them more than anything.

I'll be honest with you. I'll be fine under the Estonian nazi rule. I'm straight and white. Some of my friends are not straight, or not Estonian. If EKRE ever gets a big enough majority to influence things, our only saving grace is that it takes time to enact new laws and these friends can escape in that time. At the same time, the nazis, unlike the liberals, aren't calling for privatized healthcare and education. They're running on pure xenophobia, not with the addition of unfettered capitalism like in the US.

Still, I'd get the fuck out of the country too if that happens. Not because I refuse to fight nazis, but because if this happens it means that enough people WANTED it to happen, so it's obvious that I no longer have anything in common with the majority of my own country.

But mostly it's all saber rattling from them. They had 19 seats and they were in the coalition, and they did jack shit. They're really just a populist party and when Putin was arranging the refugee crisis to push for increased xenophobia in Europe, they got popular by saying shit a lot of people were thinking. Then it turned out that the massive amount of 10 or 11 or whatever refugees we took in didn't affect anything, and they just looked like idiots to most of the country. The only reason they got 17 votes in the election after that is that the other parties fumbled it even harder, to the point we're back to voting for fucking neoliberals primarily.

In 2027 I will probably vote for SDE despite my disdain for Läänemets. I imagine most people I know will vote for Isamaa or something similar, purely because they don't really promise to rock any boats. Some people vote for EKRE because they're populist, but not too many. Luckily we have very good education and that sorta slows down the nazi popularity. But if EKRE gets a significant bump in their seat count, I WILL be making an exit plan, probably for a mediterranean climate.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -2 points 14 hours ago

There's an unfortunate reason that we can't make any single political leaning illegal: If we do, we lose freedom of speech

Apparently yoy can make a political leaning illegal, your country is putting in jail politicians for being pro-Russian. The article on the post claims they accepted a Russia-paid trip to occupied areas of Ukraine. To your government, that is treason. To your government, being overtly xenophobic and running a party with your entire ideology being the hatred of ethnical minorities, LGBTQ and women's rights, isn't punishable by law. Hate speech laws do exist in place in Estonia that could be used to crack down on these people, it just so happens that the government doesn't care about Nazis as much as it cares about a minor pro-Russian party. I'm saying that this is wrong: you can't tolerate the intolerance. Nazis should very much be politically repressed and not allowed to run on elections, their views shouldn't be aired on media, and vocal ones should be prosecuted for hate speech.