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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The world and society have explicitly gotten far better since and because of the advent of serious representative democracy.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US and Britain genocided entire continents using representative "democracy" (IE capitalist dictatorship).

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You don't know what a dictatorship is. So far there isn't a form of government that hasn't. But unlike a dictatorship, the democracies improved

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Very few modern states are settler states based on native eviction: only the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel.

The major colonialist powers of the last few hundred years were a tiny number of european nations.

But unlike a dictatorship, the democracies improved

The US and other capitalist states based on representative democracy aren't democracies, and you'd be hard-pressed to find ppl saying they're improving.

Russia too. To some extent Sweden and China too.

Also plenty of settler states out there but they didn't evict indigenous people as much.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Things got better after unified monarchies ordained by God superceded quarreling petty kingdoms. Things got better with constitutional monarchies with aristocrat parliaments. Things got better with suffrage and classic liberal democracy.

Each system has its limitations and contradictions, and each of them were superceded when those became incompatible with the current reality.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago

Yup. Capitalist liberal democracy is the best system we've ever had at scale. It's shite for numerous reasons, but it's better than what came before. We can acknowledge the benefits while simultaneously acknowledging that we can do better.