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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 79 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)
  • "Up to..." when used to describe things like internet speeds
  • "Wholesome" when used to describe food. Not really a lie, per se, but "wholesome" has absolutely no meaning when it comes to nutrition and just sounds good
  • "Zero calories" or 0 grams of [blank] in the nutrition information. The regulations let them round down if it's less than 1 ~~gram~~ standard unit of measurement for that item (edited from grams).
  • Any time you see "free" there's always at least an implied asterisk
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

"Up to" in terms of anything. Up to inherently also contains zero.

In regards to free, I've found that a general rule of thumb is that the larger, the bolder, the more differently colored, the more drop shadows added, the shinier, or the more 3D looking the word "free" is, the less free it will actually turn out to be.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

"Up to" in terms of anything. Up to inherently also contains zero.

I feel exactly the same way about “a fraction of” especially when it’s “a fraction of the price”, because 99/100 is a fraction, as is 100/100.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I think "natural" was determined in court to hold jo required quality, or be free from artificial, man-made or modified elements. So wholly opposite the standard meaning of the word.

They always come for language first.

"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth."

[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The "zero calories" is a US thing, in the EU manufacturers are required to show nutrition per 100g. They can add percentages and serving sizes if they want, but per 100g or 100ml is required, so you can calculate your own serving sizes easily.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

you can calculate your own serving sizes easily

You haven't met the average American have you?

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (3 children)
  • "Zero calories" or 0 grams of [blank] in the nutrition information. The regulations let them round down if it's less than 1 gram.

For example, take a look at the "Serving size" of some cooking spray. 1/3 of a second of spray means 0.25g... So everything is zeroed out in the Nutrition facts.

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[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 45 minutes ago

cooking spray

Fascinating! I had never heard of this thing before, but Wikipedia has now educated me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_spray

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 9 points 12 hours ago

Oh, yeah. I totally forgot about serving size chicanery.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

I made some chili verde chicken, just chicken and sauce in the slow cooker and served over rice. When I tried it, it was super salty. So I go check the bottle, 85mg sodium per serving. But a 350ml bottle had over 50 servings!