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The Budapest Memorandum was explicitly stated to not be legally binding. It wasn't guarantees, but assurances, and the US broke these assurances first:
This was the reasoning given for sanctioning Belarus in 2013. The west backing the far-right Banderite coup in 2014 was an even greater violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. Ukraine also did not give up "its" nukes, but returned the soviet nukes Moscow had stationed there prior to the dissolution of the USSR that were a part of the multi-national nature of the soviet union.
The Budapest Memorandum was neither binding nor respected by the west to begin with.
The worst kind of cope, as soon as you are presented with the truth of the matter, that Russia is a rogue state breaking international treaties by moving an unnecessary war to a neighbouring country, you immediately cope out by comparing fiscal sanctions placed by a completely different state not even on Russia directly to an all out war and, at the same time, you use the same reasoning presented by the USA you seem to reject to justify the atrocities of the Russian regime. Moreover, it was the USA who "broke the treaty" (I'd love to see exactly which points of the treaty were broken by imposing sanctions, as the treaty was to avoid armed conflicts and does not mention sanctions as far as I am aware), by imposing sanctions over Belarus, why isn't Put-it-in attacking the real villain of this story (in your eyes) but an innocent country and people instead?
Your kremlin-loving justifications never make any sense as long as one can think about them for more than a second; it's astounding how wrong can a human being be on such an easy issue to understand
Ukraine's government isn't innocent, they have been ethnically cleansing ethnic Russians post-Euromaidan coup. Ukraine is not all Nazi, the Nazis in Ukraine are largely in the government of Ukraine and in fascist groups now folded into the government and millitary officially. I'm not wrong here at all, you still haven't explained how Nazis committing ethnic cleansing is okay.
And you still haven't provided neutral evidences of what you call "ethnic cleansing" while I've provided you a report showing a steady decrease in violent deaths between 2014 and 2022 produced by the UN while Russia was still sitting in the board and confirmed the numbers cited.
Also, how is Ukraine still capable of fighting against Russia if the majority of its people are not nazi and should be against their government according to you? Wouldn't they be fighting alongside the russian should they want to be freed from their "tyrannical" government? And yet they are still fighting almost 4 years into this war. Unbelievable how much they love tyranny in that country
I gave western sources that are biased against Russia and pro-Kiev still admitting to the ethnic cleansing campaign. Secondly, war in Ukraine is unpopular! They have to rely on forced conscription to keep the war going. There's a decent amount of nationalists in Ukraine that support the Banderites just like there are a decent number of MAGA supporters outside of the government in the US Empire, but by and large the war is unpopular. That's also why Kiev is finally trying to concede and reach a peace deal.
You've got this thought terminating ideology where if something disagrees with your far-right narrative, you immediately disagree with it, even if the sources are from outlets that share your world view.
Western sources that are bought and paid by the kremlin like Pim Tool, Benny Johnson and all those involved in the Tenet Media scandal? Thanks but I prefer official sources instead of unverified and biased blog posts.
The war is so unpopular that russian hasn't been able to conquer no complete control on those regions still under its occupation. They are so beloved by Ukrainians that they cannot even have a stable form of government due to the lack of administrative personnel. What a support from the common population!!!
Another thing are the eventual crimes committed during the war. Both Ukraine and Russia are doing terrible acts in this war and indipendent tribunals should be able to keep the perpetrators of such acts accountable once the war will end. But, ask yourself, had Russia not started this war would these war crimes ever been committed? The answer is no, of course, so in my eyes Russia still is the root cause for all the needles suffering both these countries are going through
Sources like the BBC, New York Times, The Guardian, The Hill, Jacobin, Reuters, The Natiob, and Al Jazeera are "paid by the Kremlin?" I know fascists like you thrive on irrationality, but there's a limit to denying reality.
From davel's compilation:
Ukraine ethnically cleansing the Donbass region, which popularly supports Russia, is what started the war. The Euromaidan coup is what kicked off the war in 2014, Russia entered in 2022 after the Minsk agreements failed. Had NATO not couped Ukraine, the war would have never happened.
I see a lot of articles about fascism in Ukraine but very few sources about an "ethnic cleansing" while, on thr other hand, the numbers provided with a in report show that the killing was almost halted before 2022, when Russia attacked and the deaths skyrocketed.
I'm an Italian, I live in Italy and I can tell you most of the fascists around here either strive to serve in the military or in the police force. Yet I'd hardly define Italy a fascist state, even if we're currently ran by a fascist-adjecent government. Still our judiciary, legal and police powers remain completely unrelated and indipendent and we citizens can vote out our government every 5 years (if it lasts that long, of course).
On the other hand, can you say the same for Russia and Belarus?
Oh, how I love being told I am irrational from you, you should have worked in a cinema since you're so good at projecting
Fascism has never been stopped by electoralism. Fascism is capitalism in decay. Italy is absolutely capable of being considered fascist, it's an imperialist country with a right-wing government. I also gave you clear examples of Kiev suppressing ethnic Russians, slaughtering them and erasing their language. You're projecting hard and trying to hide behind insults.
Ok dude, I hope you'll be happy once we will all be oppressed under your own kind of regime where disse terms are sent to gulags and there can be no other idea outside that imposed by the party.
Now go support Russia with Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon and their ilk, I heard they are having troubles finding good tools like you lately
I think it's a good thing when the working class is in charge and capitalism, fascism, slavery, and monarchy is eradicated and those who would uphold them are frustrated by force.
Keep supporting western imperialism, homophobia, racism, Euronationalism, and anti-communism with Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Adolf Hitler, Pinochet, Milei, Trump, Kier Starmer, Merz, Macron, Netanyahu, Zelensky, and all your far-right buddies.
Again, tge one on the same side if Carlson and Bannon ia not me, it's you. Also, when china was squashing the Tibetan or the Hong Kong manifestations against their regime do you think all people in the streets were capitalist swines? Or there may have been some workers among the ones who were violently targeted by the Chinese government?
Furthermore, is Taiwan a free country and are it's citizens free to choose their own future without inferences from the Xi regime?
Lastly, do you think LGBT people should be allowed to live their lives as they please or should they be squashed into a black box away from society because their lifestyle does not conform to the standard idea of family?
Looking forward to your totally not fascist opinions on these issues!!! :*
Carlson and Bannon are homophobic, racist, pro-imperialism, and anti-communist, just like you. They agree with you.
Neither Tibet nor Hong Kong had popular resistance to China, both "resistances" were directly aided by the west to provoke more bloodshed. Tibet in particular was a feudal slave society. Two excerpts from Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth:
Selection two, shorter: (CW sexual violence and mutilation)
-Dr. Michael Parenti
Taiwan is under the rule of the Kuomintang, who lost the war and fled to Taiwan, slaughtering resistance. The people of Taiwan are increasingly in favor of reunification with the mainland. LGBTQIA+ rights in China are improving over time. They have a long way to go, but nevertheless they are steadily improving.
And yet, both Carlson and Bannon have repeatedly asked to leave Ukraine alone to be conquered by Russia, so they do support your viewpoint on this specific issue and are against mine. So who is in cohort with these figures when it comes to Ukraine?
Are the LGBTQ rights improving also in Russia? What are exactly the improvements you can list for Chinese LGBTQ members in the past few years?
Let's be fair and concede that the stories reported about Tibet were true, wouldn't China be an imperialist country if it invaded Tibet because it didn't accept their way of arranging their society? How come you are ok with this specific imperialist conquest but disagree with the western ones?
Questions without answers and beliefs without logic
Carlson and Bannon wanting to leave Ukraine a rump state for Europe to pick up the bill for, and communists wanting Kiev to stop ethnically cleansing the Donbass region and stop NATO aggression are entirely different things to begin with, and entirely different reasons. Not only am I not aligned with Carlson and Bannon on Ukraine, you yourself are absolutely aligned with them when it comes to supporting western imperialism, homophobia, racism, and anti-communism.
LGBTQ rights aren't improving in Russia. Russia is run by nationalists, as I said, not socialists. The nationalists in Russia are better than literal Nazis, but are by no means socialists. As for listing "Chinese LGBTQ members," you realise that that isn't a thing, right? People are naturally gay, we don't choose to be gay at higher ratios in more welcoming environments. Either way, Jin Xing, one of China's top celebreties, is an open transwoman.
As for Tibet, no, China liberating Tibet is not imperialism. Imperialism is a form of international plunder, anexxing territory can be imperialist but in this case it clearly isn't. The Dalai Lama was on the CIA payroll, and the CIA used Tibet as a proxy to fight China.
All of these are answered, and my beliefs stem from a thorough understanding of Marxism-Leninism and studying real life and the news from a global context, not just regurgitating western media.
Syrange that you are on the same page of Carlson and Bannon on this very specific topic without any concern whatsoever. But you do you, if you're happy to share the same table as those two more power to you.
I didn't ask you to list Chinese LGBTQ members, I asked you to list laws and rules brought on by the party which have improved the LGBTQ situation in China. Can you cite at least one law going in this direction or not?
But people are more open to be seen as LGBTQ in welcoming environments or do you think an LGBTQ person will be ready to accept his own sexuality in, say for example, North Korea?
How is it not imperialist to conquer a nation and the starting to use its land for your own profit? Have you ever heard of the mining industry flourishing after the Chinese invasion? And what about the hydropower facilities built in this land? Where did all the extracted resources and the produced energy go? If they didn't go to Tibetans, as they went to china, how is this not imperialist according to your beliefs?
As I explained, I'm not at all on the same page with Carlson and Bannon. Their desire to dump Ukraine onto the EU to insteas focus on Latin America and then Asia isn't the same as opposing western imperialism. I can articulate why they hold their views and why I hold mine.
Here's a full report by a western org that talks about "surprising progress with daunting obstacles. The younger generation is pro-LGBTQIA+, the older is anti. Over time this is resulting in gradual change for the better with each passing generation.
I actually haven't looked into LGBTQIA+ rights in the DPRK. They're notoriously terrible in the ROK, as are women's rights, so I'd expect the DPRK to fare a bit better but I haven't actually looked into that much.
Tibet is an autonomous zone that is within the broder PRC. It isn't distinct from China, nor is it wholly the same. Tibet within the PRC has seen rapid development and dramatic progress once moving beyond feudalism into socialism. The fact that Tibet is developing and extreme poverty is eradicated there isn't a point against China, but for it. You have a Fox News style understanding of China while you live in an actually imperialist country like Italy.
Directly cited from the report you presented:
Look into the situation with the RPK and then return to me to present your findings, I'm sure homosexual people are living their best lives alongside Kim.
The "development" of Tibet has been mainly enjoyed by the Han people who flicked into the region after its conquest by China. Original Tibetans are still living in the same economical conditions as 100 years ago but in an even worse society as they are seen as "inferior" because they are not of Han origin. But this behaviour is not the behaviour of an imperialist country in your eyes, so everything is fine and don't question authorities
As I said regarding LGBTQIA+ rights, they are improving. History isn't a series of static snapshots, but instead an unfolding process. The report itself also cites the surprising progress as compared to the older PRC, and especially compared to being under Japanese colonialism and the KMT.
As for the DPRK and the LGBTQIA+ community, it's a bit difficult to learn but from what I can see it seems to be legal. May not be legally protected, but not illegal.
As for your comment on Tibet, it's full of shit. Tibetans are living far greater lives than when they were literally tortured slaves en masse, and there isn't Han supremacy. This is more Fox News far-right Neo-Nazi conspiracy shit that you continue to peddle, fascist that you admitted to being.
I wonder why it is so difficult to find information about any issue in the DPRK, such a paradise on earth should be more open to disclose its inner working to the world... It's very strange if someone think about it for more than 20 seconds, but this doesn't seem to be a concern of your it would seem.
So if the Chinese bar Tibetans from speaking their language and living their lives according to their customs while also forcing their youth to attend sino-centric schools is progress, but if Ukraine ask its russian citizens ti use Ukrainian as a language when talking with the state is ethnic cleansing. Got it
The DPRK publishes English news and has visitors from Cuba, Russia, China, and more, so we can get a good idea of how things are there. I just haven't researched their LGBTQIA+ rights yet, and the west pretty much purely lies about it. It's no paradise, but it does well considering their situation.
China does not bar Tibetans from speaking their language and living their lives according to their customs. Tibet is a part of China, and as such is integrated into the PRC, but there is not ethnic suppression. Further, Ukraine is governed by Neo-Nazis that were slaughtering people in the Donbass, not just language suppression.
More Fox News garbage from yourself.
Also, you keep talking about slaughter in Ukraine even if I already shown you that under 10 people per year were casualties of the internal war brought forward by the little green men paid by the Kremlin. You are still avoiding this fact and continue to press the button of ethnic cleansing even if there are no wires attached to it as if it were your Linus blanket. Grow up and face the facts, please
The war was brought about by the west couping Kiev and replacing the government with Neo-Nazis, which you happen to love. Further, again, the shelling had actually escalated prior to Russia getting involved, confirmed by OSCE. Kiev had ammassed an invasion force into Donetsk and Luhansk, dramatically increased shelling, and then days later Russia intervened.
Face the facts, please, and drop the unfounded ageism.
Wouldn't you know, the link to the supposed OCSE report in reality opens a blog page from an uncredited source which does not contain itself any reference to the report you cited. Talk about sources and facts, eh?
Moreover, how many of the victims of this pre-war conflicts were caused by the little green men paid by the Kremlin? I guess you haven't asked yourself this question as it might clash with the alternative reality you live in to justify the russian invasion of Ukraine. Invasion that was not going to happen if we had listened to the russian who ammassed an invading force on Ukraine borders shortly before February 2022 but who then went on for weeks to reiterate that these troops and vehicles were there just for exercising and would habe never been used to invade Ukraine. There are some truth tellers among the russians, that's for sure
Have a Reuters link and a link to OSCE itself. Toss in Human Rights Watch for good measure. Plenty of good sources.
You keep pretending the "little green men" are more important than the literal Neo-Nazis that committed the Maidan massacre and were ethnically cleansing Russians. Had NATO and Kiev not dramatically increased shelling and ammassed an invasion force in Donetsk and Luhansk, the DPR and LPR would not have requested Russian assistance and voted to join the Russian Federation. You're siding with literal neo-Nazis.
Lmao, trusting the report coming from Russia and China about how is fairing the north Korean society is wild. Why don't they accept people from other parts of the world and why, when someone can access their state, this person is not allowed to interact with people without having policemen around? Must be because they have nothing to hide, for sure. If you're interested I've got a bridge to sell you XD
So the forced movement of people from the Tibetan countryside to the inner cities has no bearing on their way of life, which was a nomadic one? How is integration carried out when a custom directly contradicts the mandates from the party?
Yes, I do trust Russia and China more than the west when it comes to reporting on the DPRK, because they actually go there and don't report nonsense claims about life there. The DPRK does accept people, it's largely western countries preventing their own people from visiting. Again, keep up your chauvanism.
The people of Tibet were not forced to inner cities. Tibet is developing beyond their nomadic mode of production, which leads to more city population and fewer nomads.
The DPRK has a tourism industry, they want people to go. I can't, as a US citizen the US Empire prevents me from going. They are understandably cautious considering the US Empire committed genocide against them, and NATO has sanctioned them into oblivion.
Tibetans are free to live as they wish, that's why many are going to the cities for work. Not everyone wants to be a nomad.