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We don't have a system of rehabilitative justice and we're not going to start having one any time soon, so the options available to us for dealing with these shitbags are either lock them up or let them keep doing what they're doing, I think preferring option 1 is extremely reasonable
Well no, you could have given them a more reasonable sentence.
By putting them in prison for 20 years you're basically garunteeing they commit more crime when they get out. Congrats you've made society less safe.
Cool story, but as I said our reality is unfortunately limited to two shitty options and your idea isn't one of them
Unfortunately my original idea working within the system was ban on firearm ownership, 5 years prison, and 5 years probation.
Plenty punitive, but at least gives them a chance of reforming a life afterwards. Works completely fine without giving in to your false dichotomy
Honestly why are you even from .ml?
Also in case you're confused when I said rehabilitative justice is better that was entirely separate from my suggested sentence
If we had anything resembling a reliable system for rehabilitation of violent ideologues in this country your plan would be a good one, but we don't so it isn't. Not a false dichotomy, just one you don't like. I'm on ML because communism is the future, the present is dogshit and our options are dogshit.
Yeah there are still more than 2 options. Mine is completely reasonable.
The stance of "the prison complex should be given a slave to make as much profit as possible, but yeah I'm a communist" is absolutely wild
Reasonable but has no chance of happening in the US right now, so you're still wrong, cope. I said nothing about "should", learn to read.
Well that's an amusing backpedal
My first comment: "If we had anything resembling a reliable system for rehabilitation of violent ideologues in this country your plan would be a good one"
My second comment: "Reasonable but has no chance of happening in the US right now"
Does that actually register as a backpedal to you? Are you sincerely stupid or just that desperate to pretend I'm not 100% right?
I'm sorry you didn't understand, but it was abundantly clear that the punishment I described was meant for the current system.
You kept disagreeing with that and engaging on the point. You insisted that they must be locked up for an extremely long period of time. I rejected that was being the only option ubder the current system. Then after pointing out that insisting they are locked up long term is supporting slavery you began to backpedal.
Sorry I didn't entertain your other hypothetical.
But yeah keep doubling down and insulting others. That's the way to make an argument
Lol so that's a yes on "desperate to pretend I'm not 100% right"