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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't know if this meme is fully ironic, but kind of strange to think "torrenting" is considered the OG piracy method now.

[–] jbone@piefed.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For me personally, the OG pirating was buying bootleg VHSs/CDs/DVDs. But torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.

IRC? Napster? Edonkey? Emule? Kademlia?

And, hell, before that there was that guy in class who for five bucks would burn you a CD with any game you wanted, which he probably got off usenet...

And of course for music there was the old double deck cassette copier...

(Personally the first software crack I remember was dismantling Monkey Island's β€œdial a pirate” wheel so I could photocopy it to share with friends after copying the diskettes...)

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember those copy protections. Go to page 6, line 42, word 3

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Damn, I miss when games came with manuals... the anticipation when reading them while coming back home from the store...

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Test Drive 3 had a pretty complicated wheel.

Your list is compromised primarily of P2P networks and a DHT?

Older methods still best methods.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I imagine to younger folks it feels like what usenet felt like to me when I was their age. Mystical land of unknown loot, if you know how to get there

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's old but it's not even close to the OG. I believe the OG is newsgroups, and after that was p2p file sharing apps like limewire and napster, and only then did torrenting become a big thing

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 21 hours ago

Those were the times when my ISP, which was owned 100% by the city, had it's own newsgroups server full of warez lol

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm gonna ignore non internet based methods. Here is the evolution imo

  1. BBS
  2. Usenet & warez websites
  3. Server client setups (Hotline etc)
  4. P2P without resuming (Napster etc)
  5. P2P W/resume & multiple sources (Kazaa, LimeWire etc)
  6. Torrents
  7. Streaming torrents
  8. Usenet

Edit: I'm seeing IRC a lot, not sure where it fits in this list. Assume it's around no 2.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the correct list, having lived through it. BBS services in the mid-1980s were the start of Razor1911, Paradox and other distro and cracker groups. I'd edit 2 to include FTP which is what BBS evolved into with secret dropsites for new releases.

IRC is 2.5 on this list. You can group that alongside the pre-web internet services, like AOL which had slightly IRC-like chat rooms dedicated to serving warez and videos in the same way (requesting a list from a chatbot, and then requesting sequential files).

Some light history here, though like all warez-related scholarship, there's a ton missing that you had to have seen to know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene

https://archive.org/details/b904a8eb-9c98-4bb1-bf25-3cb9d075b157/

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

Great list! And according to your list I'm right. BBSes aren't internet, and usenet is a synonym for newsgroups

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Copying cassettes

Original method wasn't FTP?