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Thanks for ur perspective, i think they r fair points, but you are giving up a lot of personal liberty and freedom of expression if you are OK with systems of something like PRC, but i suppose that can be classified as a choice However I think that the censorship that goes around such countries also makes it harder for us to know anything other than for example China might want to show us, we dont really have much idea of how internal dynamics work there and if u choose to believe personal testimonies its not pretty…
I'm not a capitalist, the amount of freedom I'd have if I lived in the PRC would increase dramatically. Despite popular misconception, we do have a good idea of what goes on in China. They have english-speaking news like CGTN, their processes are observed and reported on, and if you believe personal testemonies it's actually fantastic:
The problem is that western media obfuscates or slanders a lot of this reporting. It's a much more insidious form of censorship, it pretends it doesn't exist. China controls and censors the speech of capitalists and wreckers, yes, and this is approved by the vast majority.
Fun graph.
Is it okay to say otherwise? No repercussions to saying anything bad about the government? Or even perceptions that there may be repercussions?
I say this wittingly at risk of suffering the same heavy downvotes as the responder who merely concluded "the china one raises some questions…". Someone (or more ideally everybody) needs to stay curious and question things...
Depends mostly on who you are. Capitalists and celebrities are more restricted and censored, but for the working classes that doesn't apply nearly as much. People in China do genuinely support their government, and this is proven by consistent polling by western orgs showing over 90% support.
I dont think even you would agree that china is democratic tho.. not to say the west are perfect democracies, and the data u provided reflects people thoughts.. the china one raises some questions..
China is democratic, though. Why do you say they aren't? They elect officials, have large feedback polls and national suggestions for Five Year Plans, and there are local and regional governments with their own autonomy. Popular support in China is well-documented.
Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic..
This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it.