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[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean Maduro is pretty bad. If that statement was just about him, I don't see the issue. They seemed to quite dislike everything Trump was doing.

The most confusing part about that statement was Americans seeing what the Nobel prize is. They especially should stfu after electing that shit-show XD

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The peace prize did seem pretty pointless since Obama won it for doing nothing. Like don't get me wrong I voted for the guy and wanted him to win, but it was pretty dang empty to give him the peace prize, especially since he then went on to be in charge while some really ugly stuff went down.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 32 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They gave it to Kissinger too.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

The fact that they gave the peace prize to that fucking war criminal says all you need to know.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh wow that's really gross, I had no idea

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah in hindsight it was a silly award that felt like a “thanks for not being Bush and Cheney” prize.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Now look into how many bombs were dropped under Bush/Chaney, and then how many were dropped under Obama. You'll quickly understand what the Nobel Peace Prize was for.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Or, you know, that 8 years is longer than 6 years.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You’re saying that there was no Afghan war for the first 10 months of Bush’s admin and no Iraq war for the first two I take it?

Even with that factored in, from what I can tell the Bush admin dropped nearly double (100k for Obama vs 200k for Bush), although I’m not sure where they’re sourcing their information from.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's a weird argument, because he got the peace prize really early into his presidency; before he could have an impact to get America to drop 100k bombs vs 200k, but also dropping a hundred thousand bombs seems like a hundred thousand more bombs than one would have to drop to be called a paragon of peace...

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh for sure, I just don’t think it makes sense to imply he was worse than the people that created the mess in the first place who also happened to drop more bombs.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where are you getting your numbers from, cause what I'm seeing is that America dropped way more bombs under Obama than under Bush.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I think I’m wrong upon further review because Obama pulled back from ground commitments and compensated with bombing campaigns. From what I can tell the Isis bombing campaigns really brought his count up as well.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He didn't do nothing, he specialized in illegal drone strikes.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They gave him the peace prize way before that though. Almost like a prize for winning the election

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this was my point with the "nothing" statement. Obama oversaw and approved some absolutely horrendous things.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago

Yep, drone strikes meant killing without having to worry about bad news cycles with dead Americans