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I find that so crazy. I'm German and for us Italy is always the sunny south where it gets much too hot for us. The USA iseems more like us climate-wise. I'd always thought New York would be a little like Berlin. Crazy to see how far south most of the US actually is.
AMOC doing some heavy lifiting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturning_circulation
Also the Mediterranean acts like a huge heat buffer. It basically stops the polar winds from reaching southern Europe.
In addition to there being a huge mountain range in the way. The Alps block/slow down a lot of the cold air currents that do make their way down from the polar regions. That's why cities like Turin and Milan still have cold climates in the north. Cold air still makes it's way over the Alps but is slowed and is reheated as it travels south so cities like Genoa/Florence/Rome are much milder in the winter.
A large part of it is also simply the fact that at the midlatitudes westerlies dominate, which means that western Europe receives mild air from the ocean, while the US east cost receives more extreme weather from the continent.
That one is getting phased out though.
Yeah I've been getting deprecation warnings about that every time I start
./the-beachIt still has a runtime dependency on AMOCEurope is so fucked when climate change wrecks the AMOC by melting too much ice into the north Atlantic
I don't think there's any climate change scenario that's still plausible that doesn't melt the Arctic, and I don't think there's any way for the Arctic to melt without wrecking the AMOC