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To me, someone who celebrates a bit more of the spectrum than most: Metal hot. Make food hot.

Non-stick means easier cleanup, but my wife seems to think cast-iron is necessary for certain things (searing a prime rib roast, for example.).

After I figure those out, then I gotta figure out gas vs. electric vs. induction vs infrared....

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Define "better".

It's heat- when preheated properly- is much more even and it holds it quite a bit better. This of course, requires preheating (and that takes a long moment.)

when properly seasoned and oiled, the pan is genuinely nonstick to the same degree as most PTFE pan out there (without all the nasty plastics flaking off, and able to be get up to a proper temperature for searing in the first place...) But of course, this means keeping your pan properly seasoned.

I'm not a fan of lodge cast iron, though, IMO its too much work to develop and maintain that level of seasoning (because of it's surface. Victoria is a better inexpensive option if you're looking to buy new.) But I also rock a lodge when camping (Because I don't want to subject my really nice, inherited stuff to campfire cooking.) but cast iron can take the abuse of cooking right on coals and other campfire torture (like being cleaned with sand.)

Of course, you have to clean up/care for that camp pan after the fact.

The point being made is that everyone has a different understanding of what is "best", cast iron does require a significant investment in maintenance and care. For me, the effort is worth it. for many it's not.

for what cast iron does well, it's amazing. And really, the biggest problem is that it's not so good for acidic things (which eats away the seasoning, but that's more like 'don't try and make a pasta sauce' rather than "don't splash in some citrus."

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I recently got an induction stove (not even one of the expensive ones) and am so blown away by how fast it can heat up cast iron pans. It's seconds, not minutes.

I mean I'm sure it's pretty much instant with pans of lower mass, but instant isn't what I need.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah. actually have to be careful to not heat it too quickly, though. I'm not sure what that threshold is, though. Inductive cooktops are lovely, though. Much better than electric cooktops, and lacking in all the unpleasant pollution of gas.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cast iron is horrible at heat distribution and responsiveness.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

“When properly preheated, the heat is very even” isn’t contradicted to that fact.

Cast iron does indeed suck at heat distribution, which is one of the reasons it needs proper preheating.

But once the pan is properly preheated, then that heat is quite even.

Make sense?

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is factually wrong from the jump.

Cast iron does not heat evenly.

Cast iron quite specifically is very good at heat retention. Heat distribution suffers as a consequence. What you're seeing as heat distribution is the consequence of having to preheat your pan for so long.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is factually wrong from the jump

…. What you're seeing as heat distribution is the consequence of having to preheat your pan for so long.

So you’re saying that, properly preheated, the pan has very even heat?

Gee why didn’t I … oh. That’s is what I’m saying.

You’re right, if you don’t preheat, it’s uneven. But you put in the extra effort and it’s rather more even than nearly any kind of pan.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I highly doubt you're throwing your pan in the oven or letting it sit in a burner for an hour every time you need to cook something. There's a hot spot that you, as a result of using it for so long, are aware of, and that's where 90% of your cooking is taking place.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It doesn't take an hour to preheat cast iron

FTA:

To preheat over a burner: Set your cast iron skillet over medium heat, ideally on a burner that's roughly the same size or larger than the pan's base. If your burner is smaller than the pan, rotate the skillet a few times during preheating to help even out hot spots. Give it 3 to 5 minutes to come up to temperature. Then, and only then, add the oil and let it heat until it shimmers or just starts to smoke. If you're aiming for a specific temperature, use an infrared thermometer to read the surface directly. For gentler cooking tasks, such as sautéing onions or frying eggs, a surface temperature of around 400°F is usually sufficient. For high-heat jobs like searing a steak or pork chop, let the pan reach a temperature closer to 500°F.

To preheat in the oven: When you need a ripping-hot skillet to put a proper sear on steaks or chops, I recommend using the oven, which can heat the pan evenly while also making it exceptionally hot. Place the empty cast iron skillet in a cold oven, then turn the oven to 500°F. Once it reaches the desired temperature, carefully remove the skillet using oven mitts or a thick kitchen towel (it will be blisteringly hot, so make sure that towel isn't even the slightest bit damp). ...

(emphasis mine.) Ovens typically take 10-20 minutes to come up to temperature, and if for whatever reason your oven is already hot, it won't take longer than what your oven takes to preheat to to get up to temp.

Either way, I typically start preheating as I'm prepping everything else.

And yes, I know I have an even pan because I not-infrequently make omelettes in them.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Yup...if you're patient and wait for the heat to spread to the whole pan, the entire thing will be hot and stay hot for a long time...even the handle.