yogthos

Nobody is talking about defying laws of physics here. Your whole premise rests on fossil fuels running out and being essential for energy production. This is simply false.

I'm not assuming anything. Either you have not used these tools seriously, or you're intentionally lying here. Your description of how these tools work and their capabilities is at odds with reality. It's dangerous to make shit up when talking to people who are well versed in a subject.

Correct, my answer does not address obvious straw man points of scenarios that don't exist in the real world.

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Except USSR didn't run out of energy.

Again, I'm explaining to you that society is a conscious and intentional construct that we make. USSR could have made changes in a similar way China did to move in a different direction. As your own chart shows, there was no shortage of energy as output rebounded. The problems were political and with the nature of the way the economy was structured.

Again, you're discussing tools you haven't actually used and you clearly have no clue how they work. If you had, then you would realize that agents can work against tests, which act as a contract they fill. I use these tools on daily basis and I have no idea what these surprises you're talking about are. As a practitioner, I find these things plenty practical.

Carbon footprint shows how much energy is being used per capita. Population density is way past the point where it's practical for people to live off the land in some subsistence living scenario. What is more likely to happen is that we'll see things like indoor farming being developed so that cities can feed themselves. This will become particularly important as climate continues to deteriorate, as indoor farms will make it possible to have stable environment to grow food in.

Having grown up in USSR, I know there was in fact a huge difference. The economy wasn't structured around consumption, goods were built to last. People weren't spending their time constantly shopping and consuming things. The idea that USSR was destined to collapse is also pure nonsense. There were plenty of different ways it could've developed. USSR certainly didn't collapse because it was running out of energy.

Old enough to remember how people made these same arguments about writing in anything but assembly, using garbage collection, and so on. Technology moves on, and every time there's a new way to do things people who invested time into doing things the old way end up being upset. You're just doing moral panic here.

It's also very clear that you haven't used these tools yourself, and you're just making up a straw man workflow that is divorced from reality.

Meanwhile, your bonus point has nothing to do with technology itself. You're complaining about how capitalism works.

The point is that capitalist relations are absolutely the problem here. Social systems do not have to be built around consumption. You're also talking about natural systems that evolve based on selection pressures as opposed to systems we design consciously.

First of all, carbon footprint in China is already far lower than in any developed country. Second, as I already pointed out, most countries simply outsourced their production to China.