elbarto777

It's more complicated than just saying she's pro-Trump because she's indulging him.

Listen, I don't like that she's done that.

But let's be absolutely clear on one thing:

The Trump regime has more in common with the Maduro regime than whatever Machado has in mind.

I've seen Trump play the same book, step by step, that Chavez played back in the 00s.

They're both Russian material. Though Chavez was more aligned with Cuba, but it's the same BS.

So, no. Machado is not "maga". Machado is pro "4th Republic" (or how things were before this "5th Republic" established by Chávez.)

Machado is just desperate because nothing the Venezuelan opposition has done has worked. Granted, the opposition has been so, so, so lousy through the years! If you think Democrats suck at opposing Trump, you should read everything the Venezuelan opposition has done to resist, and get nothing as a result. Just hippie, "we go high" bullshit.

Hell, they even ousted Chávez once! Look it up! They didn't know what to do with the recently acquired power, doing a lot of bullshit moves that eventually the military was like "well, these people are crazier than Chávez. We gave them a chance, they blew it. Let's bring Chávez back before these clowns start a famine or something". It was hilariously sad.

So, again, Machado is not pro-Maga. She hates that ideology (America first, or Venezuela first in this case). She's just a result of a desperate opposition that sees that the only way to oust this unending regime is through external help. And unfortunately Trump took the bait. If Madagascar had expressed interested in invading Venezuela instead of the U.S., she would be buttering them (Madagascar) instead.

Oh.

edit: actually I misremembered. The OP said that "we" needed to organize better. I guess meaning to say organize better to stop this war on its tracks.

I guess I can agree with that.

Maria Corina is not far right. C'mon.

Traditional right, yes.

Far right, nah.

Sure. That slogan is as true as North Korea's offical name: Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Uh, the current Venezuelan government is marxist. They borrowed Cuba and Russia's playbook.

I guess that's how my point came across, but that's not what I meant. No, I wish no war on Venezuela because of what you just said.

I was replying to the poster who said "Venezuelan people! Fight!" Fight?! For the government that maimed them in the first place? No. Let the two governments fight if they want. Regular Venezuelans should flee if they can.

Who are you replying to?

Whatever dude. I know what I'm talking about because I lived in Venezuela at a time when they tried to oust Chávez, and failed miserably.

Of course I'm aware! And that invalidates my point how?

Venezuelans unfortunately don't stand a chance against the U.S. They couldn't oust Maduro, for crying out loud.

I hope Venezuelans, the people, don't suffer much. I hate that there is war looming on them.

But the two governments involved? Fuck them.

Can it get any more American this?

Yes. Yes, it can.

No. Fuck that. Let's put it this way: American people should fight against this illegal war, regardless of whether they support Trump or not. They're 10X the size of the Venezuelan population.

Now tell me. Is that fair now?