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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Israeli forces on Thursday killed a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they appeared to surrender to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.” The Israeli military said it was investigating.

The IDF is filled with racist motherfuckers who should be charged with murder and promptly sent to the worst jail in the world.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Seriously, the IDF is hardly a professional military at this point, in most ways it is simply a formalized institution for ethnic cleansing using expensive military equipment they are given as handouts by the US military.

The IDF does not even follow basic rules of engagement, they see a civilian, have impulse feelings about it and then shoot. No threat analysis, no consideration over whether lethal force is necessary by a chain of command and absolutely NO accountability for blatant horrific war crimes. The IDF is not a military, it is a bunch of murderers wearing military fatigues.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not disagreeing, but "at this point" implies they were ever anything else.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Back in 1994, the IDF granted Itamar Ben-Gvir an exemption from mandatory military service due to his right wing views. He has since been convicted (in Israeli courts) of supporting a terrorist organization, and is currently serving as Israel's minister of national security; and is a key figure in maintaining the current governing coalition.

The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.

The IDF is still full of foot soldiers who have willingly and knowingly prosecuted the Palestinian Genocide, the entire "military" structure is complicit top to bottom. IDF soldiers all the way from the top leadership down to grunts deserve to be in jail equally.

Israeli society has been radicalized into genocide, complicity is omnipresent and distributed down chains of command, if IDF personnel think they can argue "I was just following orders!" they are ignorant fools who refused to learn history or listen to basic calls for human empathy and they deserve to be prosecuted as active and willing participants in the Palestinian Genocide to the full extent possible.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My understanding is that they absolutely get their shit pushed in when they can't hide behind their airplanes and have to fight armed adversaries in face-to-face combat.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oct 7th offensive was only turned around when gunships showed up. "The best most badass armed forces" in one of the most fortified and militarized region on earth were utterly destroyed by guys with trucks and AKs.

The myth of the IDF being elite and uniquely brave is one of the biggest dog shit lies ever told.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

The murdered we're Al-Muntasir Billah Abdullah, 26; and Youssef Asasa, 37.

Their poor families.. Also, fuck the AP for making that paragraph 11. Jeez.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

same exact thing that happened few months ago too. IOF ambushed a guy in the West Bank who surrendered with both his hands up

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uPNqYEV3z1c

https://youtube.com/shorts/1r5E039-fUc

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For the people who want to see the video. PS: DON'T. There's a good reason outlets are only posting pictures. https://veganism.social/users/vega/statuses/115624229593254481

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If people don't watch it then the IDF wins. The videos and photos documenting atrocities are being suppressed with the excuse that they are "too graphic" for the general public to see.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Graphic isn't even the right term to describe it. It's just... Nonchalant. It's very much like that recent Oscar winning movie about Nazi Germany, where people are just living their lives while horrors are happening in the background. There's way more graphic footage of this genocide, but this one just struck me in a weird way.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

answersplease77@lemmy.world wrote:

and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting

False. Instead they used an excacator to collapse part of the warehouse building (the rather large liftable door) on the victims' bodies, likely hoping to hide their deeds for a while. They were unaware that a journalist was filming them with a telephoto lens.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are false. Watch the full video at 2:05 they brought a stretcher to take the bodies afterward:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B7t-IGOokbU

and there have hundrends of bodies returned with missing organs. It's their standard protocol to take the bodies they execute same as this video too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1oy9f94/israeli_soldiers_were_filmed_assaulting_a/

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Stop bluffing, unless you know what it takes to get an organ successfully transplanted to someone. And I see you don't.

A really simple rule: if one would intend to get transplantable organs, one would not drop construction material on the person. One would transport the person to a hospital without any delay. Doctors would be the persons telling of which violations are happening.

As things are, both Israel and some other countries (Russia) have the habit of returning the bodies of some prisoners who died under suspicious circumstances without some organs. For example, an Ukrainian journalist's body was returned without her brain and throat. No, she's not living in another body, brain transplants are fantasy. She was likely strangled to death and organs removed to conceal torture.

I am currently under the impression that this practise serves the purpose of concealing torture (or other crimes) in several places, with one exception - China.

China has been credibly accused of actually harvesting organs from prisoners executed in prisons. This is feasible for them, since a prisoner after execution can be tested before they are killed, and is immediately available for dissection and cooling of organs, which can then be rushed to an airport for sending to the correct hospital. I have good reason to suspect it's happening. Needless to say, it's an extremely serious crime.

However, I have not heard of any successful (no matter whether voluntary or forced) organ donation from a person who experienced circulatory death in field conditions and was transported slowly from a considerable distance. Jenin is in the West Bank. Do you think doctors in the West Bank would accommodate a request from the IDF to remove, test and cool organs for from a shooting victim for transplantation? I don't think even Israeli doctors would.

If you think differently, I would like to see evidence.

As the thread tells us, IDF committed two war crimes: shooting prisoners and desecrating their bodies. There is no need to spread silly rumours on top of that. Reality is bad enough.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First, there are hundreds of pieces of evidence and doctor testimonies proving that the IOF have been organ harvesting their hostages.

Secondly regarding this case, I hope you're right and I hope the IOF are incapable of doing further crimes to these bodies. It's also a sad relief that the they just executed them instead of torturing them to death as the IOF have been doing to whoever they capture.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hundreds aren't needed, a reference to maybe 3 highest credibility reports that you have, would be good to look at.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

https://lemmy.world/comment/20435119

all this list of articles + look up the testomonies of doctors who worked in Gaza's docotrs without borders foundations on youtube. + Dr Ghassan Abu Sittah 's photos & testimony that he gave when he came back. Those are all UK, US, Australian doctors btw.. not Khhaamahuus. I know your lame butt is too cynical and too lazy to google this yourself. You see the list I gave you in that comment? at lesst 20 sources right there. It's not my issue if you are not convinced, and I will not do your homework.
You go do your research or choose to stuff your stinking propagonda you desprately try to spread despite the truth and hundrends of resources and testominies there up your brain and live with it.