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Mozilla Firefox is not a privacy browser anymore

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 36 points 1 day ago

“New CEO”

Did anyone for a fraction of a second expect anything good to follow that part?

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've always defended mozilla after every dumb mistake, but I'm over it.

They're pretty much just cooked at this point.

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

Guess we're going to have to go with Brave then.

...

Oh wait

[–] m105@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago

Well...Waterfox kinda looks good

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago

The new CEO's overarching goal is to turn Mozilla into the “world’s most trusted software company,” citing public dissatisfaction with today’s privacy practices and the tech industry’s growing appetite for all kinds of data.

What the fuck does this man think the industry is feeding the data to?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've been sticking with Firefox through thick and thin. All through the rise of chrome I stuck with Firefox. They sure are making it hard. Think I'm going to have to pull the plug soon.

[–] MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How about forking Firefox and make that into an AI browser instead of ruining the good old Firefox?

[–] papercut@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ladybird can't come soon enough

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 1 points 8 hours ago

Don't use Ladybird, use Servo (It's only 0.3, so I would advise waiting).

[–] jimi_henrik@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

If Firefox is now considered a bad choice based on what the new CEO said, what do you think of Ladybird's leader?

https://drewdevault.com/2025/09/24/2025-09-24-Cloudflare-and-fascists.html (relevant section about halfway through)

[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Zen, LibreWolf, and Waterfox strip Firefox clean of AI.

Zen is a feature powerhouse like Vivaldi, without the bloat. LibreWolf is privacy focused and ships with uBlock Origin by default.


Zen is my main browser. LibreWolf at work for stability. Waterfox works on PC and Android, but I only use it on the latter so can't vouch for its performance on the former.

There are even more Firefox forks, but these are the one's I use.

[–] daizelkrns@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I tried to use Zen in my work computer but IT flagged it and made me uninstall it, due to privacy and security concerns. The approved browsers are edge, chrome and vanilla Firefox.

Go figure

[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

If you need to monitor operational processes from within a browser I wouldn't recommend Zen. If you don't, damn, that sucks ☹. I hope you can at least install uBlock Origin in vanilla Firefox.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

What do you use for android?

[–] TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Personally I've heard of 3 other "Foxes"; Waterfox, Ironfox & Librefox. Anyone know the differences between these & the use cases? I've been wanting to switch off Firefox to something more privacy-focused and this has given me a good push to do so.

[–] nkk@programming.dev 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

IronFox is a privacy fork for Android, the rest of these are meant for desktop.

Waterfox is privacy-focused but more focused on convenience than Librewolf*.

Librewolf is also privacy-focused but leans further into privacy than Waterfox with the sacrifice of convenience.

Mullvad Browser leans even further into privacy than Librewolf with the sacrifice of convenience. Made by the Tor team and Mullvad.

*I haven't used Waterfox much but this seems to be the consensus online

Personally, I use Mullvad Browser as a daily driver, and anything that doesn't work on Mullvad Browser I use Librewolf or hardened Brave for. (Many people don't like Brave but I like to have a privacy-focused Chromium-based browser for web development)

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Which is a fork of Firefox. Librewolf lives and dies by Firefox’s continued development.

[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Haha Jesus. Seeya!

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

donate to servo!

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

fuck this shit!

[–] PixTupy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sigh.. another one down. Anyone know good alternatives?

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Librefox is a privacy focused fork of Firefox. And if what I use. I've also heard good things about waterfox

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you like vim navigation there's Qutebrowser. I use that as my daily driver and I love it. will never use another browser again.

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

qutebrowser is just Chromium under the hood (same goes for anything that uses QtWebEngine). https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qtwebengine-overview.html

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

The last few months of tech news alone have me feeling like he ain't answering his ring doorbell.