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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 minutes ago

I find it funny to watch these countries having issues with people not wanting to have babies.

There are core reasons behind this, one large one being "raising a child is expensive and all the world's money is being sucked up by billionaires, there is nothing left for children". Another one (for certain countries like Japan and South Korea) is the "work 80 hours a week and never see that family you're supposed to raise"

And governments go like "sooooo, if we cover child birth, you're good, right? What? Still nothing? We tried nothing and we're all out of ideas, how oh how can we solve this?"

Fuck the rich, end the rich. That will get births back to a healthy 2.1

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

And then they help pay the roughly $15,000 usd per yr per child it costs to raise a child right?

Becauae it would be really bad if China helped pay for a ton of kids to be born that can't be provided for.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This seems like overcompensating for the child limit. Are they going to be like a yoyo, swinging from one extreme to the other until they find a balance, like all things should be?

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

No country has increased birth rates sustainably without major coersion. China is still using soft coercion and offering incentives.

[–] tym@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

the ROI is they get future foot soldiers

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They already have a glut of military aged males with no marriage prospects, if they were serious about invading Taiwan, they could only do it now (also aligns with the fact that America has become more isolationist, Japan hasn't a serious standing army yet etc.)

If they are planning for the future, it's not military, it's societal.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's great, but I had kind of assumed it was already in place.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 29 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

China has a far weaker social safety net than a lot of people assume.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

That also apparently depends a lot on the particular region's policies. Which aren't as centralized as everyone in the West imagines.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Especially considering the pedestal it lives on on Lemmy.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

with tankies, they salivate over any news of china, but they would never live there themselves.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Idk I'd live there if I had the chance. The trains seem neat ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I take it they removed the two child limit?

[–] Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

Yes , back in 2021.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 12 hours ago

they did a long time ago, but thier 1 child policy had generational effect, too little women and too much men ratio, plus other problems like job prospects outside of university(mostly around engineering, and other stems) too much graduates for too small of a pool for jobs.

and the rising COL in the country too, and the CCP trying to lure USA Scientists for job hunting as gotten the netizens incensed. in hindsight chinese citizens arnt having childrens because of that, so ccp might blowing smoke, if they dont solve the underlying issues.(not to mention the evergrande situation happened too.

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