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It’s a terrorist, pirate state run by a fascist.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Conservatives have absolutely destroyed America's soft power. At least for an entire generation. They've made the rest of the world believe their shitstain childlike behavior is how all Americans act. This rapist president has made it clear to the rest of the world that agreements with the U.S. are worth no more than the paper they're written on.

These fucking knuckle draggers are weighing us down and will continue to do so after their rapist idol is dead and buried.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Don't worry it'll for more than a generations. China is already a peer competitor and what America had going for it was incumbency as the global unipolar hegimon. Trump has openly reliquished this position and, regardless of who succeeds him, it's not something that can be easily restablished.

Winning goodwill back is almost certainly not going to happen. Even with assurances, other countries will feel as if they're only one election cycle away from potentially unfair treatment. The only way we go back to American unipolarity is another world war which America somehow gets rich off of like WW2 or achieving artificial general intelligence before anyone else.

I think the leaders of the US understand this which is why they're pushing for higher military spending everywhere and also going hard on AGI, no matter how far fetched it is in the near future at least.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The Democrats were unabashedly supporting genocide in Palestine and ran a candidate who vowed no deviation from that policy. If you think it's just Conservatives, you haven't been paying enough attention.

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago
[–] ofthemasses@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but this article is a laugh: "But while it has fallen short in the past, there was always broad bipartisan agreement over what the U.S. should be: a reliable ally; a country that supports those less fortunate, stands up against tyranny worldwide and is a beacon of freedom for human rights defenders."

I think it would be more accurate to say that the USAs optics have tried to pander this way. But now they are not even bothering with their PR. The USA has been wheeling and dealing even during WW2.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It's actually in some ways refreshing in a sense that the US is embracing its role as imperial villain in many peoples stories. Shocking to people that live in America sure but to anyone that has experience with America's foreign policy as an external entity it seems like America is finally accepting itself for who it really is and embracing its decline in a sort of reverse coming of age manner.

[–] amniote@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Where I live we have square kilometers of american GI's that liberated europe. As a first in human history victors did not loot or rape. Instead they scrambled to be home by christmas. Europe is forever indebted to these men and the people that led them.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

Yeh and 99.5% of them have since passed away, all that's left is grift riding on the coat tails of stolen valor.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm a German guy from Berlin, next year I'll be 50. My dad was born in 1944 and it's pretty safe to say he survived being cut off from food supplies by the Soviets only because Americans pulled off the Berlin Airlift. These brave pilots helped save the lives of people they had considered enemies not much earlier.

So I would not be alive were it not for Americans. Am I indebted to America? Fuck yes, of course I am.

Having said all that, it's so painful to see America turn to fascism - the very thing those GIs you mention fought against. A country I love, people I love, losing their minds and their hearts. Literally turning evil, led by a criminal lunatic who so obviously follows the demagogue playbook...

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 20 hours ago

Somewhat glad my grandpa, a WW2 vet isn't around to see it.

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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 27 points 1 day ago

The US is a malign actor for the US as well. Our government has become a danger to our own citizens.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

They have always been. It's now just impossible to ignore.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 3 points 22 hours ago

This just means that white people are starting to find out.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 165 points 1 day ago (27 children)

The real shock to Americans will be when they discover this can't be fixed.

Americans want to believe that relations will return to normal once the democrats are back in power. But, they don't understand that the loss of trust in the US is permanent. Sure, if the democrats take back power and want to negotiate trade deals, other countries may sign them. They're just not going to believe that the US can be trusted to honour the terms of those trade deals, and will structure the deals accordingly. Trump's 2 terms show that a treaty signed by the US is meaningless, because a president like Trump can come along and just rip it up. They've also showed that support for someone Trump-like is close enough to 50% that it can easily happen again.

The momentum of international trade, and the vast power the US wields means that there won't be a sudden cutting off of the US. But, bit by bit, even former staunch allies are going to start slowly pivoting away from the US whenever possible no matter who's elected and how big a landslide it is.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 3 points 20 hours ago

A lot of "always has been" in this thread but

a treaty signed by the US is meaningless

this is literally the USA's origin story lol

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump has ripped up or tried to cancel deals he made in his first term. Why any nation would bother to negotiate with the US right now is beyond me. Nothing can be trusted from this administration or any one to come

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why any nation would bother to negotiate with the US right now is beyond me

It's because they don't really have a choice. If it were say, Australia, that had gone off the rails, they could just be ignored. But, the US is still such a central part of the world's economy, and there are so many important companies based out of the US, that it's not possible just to pull the plug. In addition, if countries didn't negotiate with Trump he might see it as a slight and send in the navy to interdict "drug boats" or something.

This also makes things look like they're better than they are. People see trade deals being negotiated and think "well, if that's happening, then things aren't that far gone. The reality is that countries used to negotiate trade deals with the US because, even when they felt they were being pressured to cave to US demands, they could at least count on the US to more-or-less honour the terms of the deal when it was done. I think countries are now dealing with the US because they have to, but they're really just going through the motions, not expecting that the result will actually be a binding agreement.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

About nations not having a choice there is truth to that but I want to focus on something nations can do to. Study in particular which companies support Trump the most and work to find replacements for those. For example the fossil fuel industry is a significant backer of Trump and Republicans. This means countries who are rightfully upset about Trump and buy fossil fuels from the US should make switching to renewable energy a huge priority maybe even do it at cost or subsidize the transition. This means fossil fuel companies will have less money and less to give to Republicans.

Also for people who live in blue states contact your state politicians and demand a faster transition to renewables too.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Americans do not take the situation seriously. They either think they have no power to personally fix it, so contributing to any effort is pointless, or that it's just more of the same politics as before and can't tell the difference. They are encouraged to stay out of the way because they are the only force that seems to be capable of stopping it at this point.

Once Trump and the GOP destroy the framework of power the constitution defines, there are no rules anymore, only power, and the constitution really does mean nothing. The relationship America built with the world since WW1 will be over and won't return as democratic nations can not remain interdependent with a fascist America. America will be another authoritarian regime using violence as the solution to every problem, including domestic problems. Those problems will only increase because an authoritarian leadership is functionally incapable of managing a non-authoritarian system. America will transition, painfully and violently, to a fascist state and the dream that was America will be dead. All at the hands of a TV show personality and the generations raised by TV, which is both sad and painfully American.

Edit: Not enough Americans...

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Absolutely. This regime has shown how fragile the relationship is, and how untrustworthy the USA is as a partner.

once the democrats are back in power

This little phrase reminded me: I find it interesting how this is just assumed by many people as an eventuality when we've already seen a failed coup attempt last time an election ousted the Republican regime. There is this underlying faith in the liberal democracy of the US, since despite its huge flaws, it hasn't failed in over a century. Similar with all the people who call for impeachment, police arresting ICE and other legal mechanisms.

It's silly to trust government institutions to save one from an openly, brazenly malicious government.

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[–] 3yiyo3@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not now... Always have been

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

But now to white people in Europe, too! Not just brown people in South America... and the Middle East... and Southeast Asia... and Africa.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 247 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Bruh, for most of the US the US is a malign actor.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 days ago

For most of the world, capital is a malign actor and the US has the highest concentration.

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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Still the bad joke of the world here.

Biggest prison population, most "asset forfeiture", most chemically polluted "food" supply, paying the most for worst healthcare, relatively non-existent public transport, hegemonic oligarchy pretending to be democracy spreading democracy by "regime change", "education" system indoctrinating insularity and ignorance,

[Edit + these the LLM added for me because it's an exhausting list to manually write] mass shootings as a cultural pastime, student debt as a life sentence, "freedom" measured in gun ownership but not in healthcare access, military budget bigger than the next ten countries combined, "infrastructure week" as a recurring punchline, two-party system that’s just one party with two heads, "justice" system that’s a revolving door for the rich and a trapdoor for the poor, "American Dream" now just a subscription service with hidden fees, [Edit: and the list can go on for at least twice as long again yet.]

and a corporate monopoly media to bind peoples minds by.

... "land of the free", "USA number one!".

XD

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The triumph of disinformation, greed, and self-centered ultraconservatism; a country about to implode.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It could come to your country too unless you take action. I see so many other countries making the same mistakes we do here and it makes me so sad knowing that this could be their fate too unless they make different decisions.

The truth is I notice in Europe they too in my opinion haven't done enough to combat disinformation for sure they're better than we are but it's not enough.

What we need is for every child to be taught as much as possible about critical thinking, propaganda and disinformation. The quality of education children get is super important. In addition I believe emotional resilience must be taught in schools somehow.

Please for everyone reading this contact your politicians or your school board and demand more done to combat disinformation.

Also remember we are all in this together. Look at all the Trump copycats there are in the world. Look at how Trump learned from Hungary and Russia. Because they were not stopped in one country they feel safe doing it in another. We as people must support each other and stand up for each other when bad things are happening somewhere because when something bad happens to someone else it could one day be you it happens to.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 33 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Speaking as an American I expect to be fucked by this for the rest of my life (and rightfully so) if one jackass getting put in office can fuck things up this badly we shouldn't be trusted as an ally or trade partner. There's a lot of work to be done to ensure this can't happen again and I don't believe it will ever happen. At least not anytime soon. We are at the peak (I hope) of the weakest of weak men times.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

if one jackass getting put in office

Twice. TWICE!!

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine ruining 250 years of a successful democracy so you can line you and your friends pockets with filthy lucre while having sex with tweens. That guy stands for nothing and most of america has lost it's ability to feel shame or have any empathy. Both human traits.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

250 years of a successful democracy

Lmfao. Jim Crow was a successful democracy? Literal slave ownership before that? Invasion of Iraq was successful Democracy? Bombing of Vietnam?

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree. There is always something dark in most histories of anything and everything. The good old usa did a lot of dirty shit under the guise of their 250 year old successful democracy. Don't confuse goodness and justice with democracy.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The successful democracy that couldn't ever implement the overwhelmingly popular universal healthcare?

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 3 points 20 hours ago

No no, the one that has been at war for 246 of it's 250 year existence.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (12 children)

If you only consider Europe most the world it would be true bit no the usa beem a malign actor for several decades

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I was gonna say, only now? I'm in the US and can see it's been a bad actor since at least the end of WW2.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

🌎👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

but yeah, that's what i'm saying. you are the baddies.

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