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@asklemmy #AskMastodon Philosophical/anthropological question for anyone interested in #SocialJustice or #AIethics or anyone with a thought on it.

Do you think the common association and clear similarities between the robot-pejorative term “clanker” and the n-word at all indicate that use of the term “clanker” ought to be avoided?

Disclaimer: I’m not a part of any historically oppressed people groups

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago

If so, perhaps the rabbit-pejorative term "bunny" should also be avoided for the same reasons as the dreaded n-word.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, but the way clanker has been adopted and expanded upon by the internet has made it into an analogue for the n word.

The term was originally a pejoritive for battle droids in the Star Wars prequel films, and was then adopted by the anti-AI crowd.

From there, it grew into 'clanka' (no hard R, just like the n word) jokes, and moved into other analogues like 'Jim Code laws', 'George Droid', and 'Rosa Sparks'.

[–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

@6nk06 Far from it, but I don’t think you can really deny that “clanker” is intentionally being used as a slur

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I deny. Making a joke is not a slur. Calling someone an asshole is not a slur either.

And what about wanker?

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

No. There are plenty of insults, and even normal adjectives, that end in -er.

It's not wrong to call a clanker clanker.

Ethics apply to humans foremost and shouldn't be considered towards an inanimate creature.

[–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

#AskMastodon
My concerns behind the question have nothing to do with worrying about being demeaning to AI or robots, but my thought is that the association between “clanker” and the n-word, and the common use of “clanker” in a lighthearted manner could imply (and possibly unintentionally support) blasé attitudes towards extremely harsh slurs in general

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

You're a cheeseburger.