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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has reaffimed his firm refusal to cede any territory, resisting U.S. pressure for a painful compromise with Russia as he continued to rally European support for Ukraine.

“Undoubtedly, Russia insists for us to give up territories. We, clearly, don’t want to give up anything. That’s what we are fighting for,” Zelenskyy said in a WhatsApp chat late Monday in which he answered reporters’ questions.

“Do we consider ceding any territories? According to the law we don’t have such right. According to Ukraine’s law, our constitution, international law, and to be frank, we don’t have a moral right either.”

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[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 141 points 1 week ago (22 children)

As an American I stand with Ukraine.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (67 children)

Good.

Meanwhile, I'm eagerly waiting for the local Tankie to, once again, explain how so much death is justified by the dire threat Ukraine poses to a 17 million square kilometer country with 5,459 nuclear warheads. And, apparently, to their own people. I'm sure NATO is still making them do it, yep.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Haven't you heard, it's because everyone in Ukraine is a nazi. Not the invader! the invadee. Nazis, all of them.

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[–] sircac@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago

Slava ukraini

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm rallied.

We all are.

It's up to the rich cunts.

And they act in their self interest, so it's basically a dice roll. Oh, also, Russia controls USA, and USA controls the world, so I'm kind of hunkering down and trying to find an AK at this point.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We all are.

Far from it. A lot of people in Europe are brainwashed by Russian propaganda, even more people are not doing that great and will not sacrifice anything to help Ukraine. In many countries the right is either in power or very close to getting it. Each government is very carefully calculating how to keep the war going without losing the next elections. I think European troops should have been providing air defense to western Ukraine from the very beginning of the war but half or most of the people (depending on the country) don't support sending any troops there.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 64 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Giving bullies what they demand usually works out super well.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It worked great when Chamberlain pressured Czechoslovakia to cede territory to Nazi Germany. Everyone was happy and nothing bad came out of it.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I even think the headline is a little offensive, acting as if ceding land is even an option. They ceded land to Russia a decade ago and they're still getting attacked. WW2 should have taught us that you can't appease guys like Putin and Hitler.

[–] ODGreen@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They didn't cede land back then either, it got taken over.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Slava mother fucking Ukraini

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 53 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The biggest loss of the Trump administration will be that the rest of the world realized they could go on without America.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If a prolific murderer and a felon rapist pedophile were pressuring me to give up what my fellow countrymen were dying for, I'd say no too.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

When a home invader breaks in, just let him keep the living room, as long as he stays out of the kitchen and bedrooms. It's a reasonable compromise.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 38 points 1 week ago (7 children)

If anyone in the Trump administration had any brains at all, this would have been obvious from the outset.

The only people who can see advantage to Ukraine seeding territory to Russia, is Russia. Everyone else involved can see what a monumental tactical error that would be. Especially since everybody knows the only reason Russia is even at the negotiating table is because they are desperate, given that is the case, there is zero reason to capitulate.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm a long way from fully versed in the intricate power plays involved here etc etc, but I'm amazed Russia didnt roll over them, and I'm pretty appalled that the world didnt rally behind Ukraine.

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[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Europe should stop acting like Trump is a reasonable person. He is not. And he is a Russian asset.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

We stand with Ukraine!

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Isnt this how russia took crimea. What makes anyone believe this'll be the last time.

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Zelensky should ask Trump how much American land he is willing to give Putin.

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