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Taiwan expressed thanks and China was upset on Wednesday after Donald Trump signed into law legislation requiring the U.S. State Department to regularly review and update guidelines on how the United States officially interacts with Taipei.

The United States is Taiwan's most important international backer despite the lack of formal diplomatic ties, and the issue is a constant source of irritation in Sino-U.S. relations given Beijing views the democratically-governed island as its own.

Taiwan Foreign Minister Lin Chia-lung told reporters more frequent reviews of the guidelines would allow Taiwanese officials into federal agencies for meetings, for example, though the legislation does not make explicit mention of this.

In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lin Jian said China firmly opposes any form of official contact between the United States and "the Taiwan region of China".

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Taiwan is a representative democracy now, not a dictatorship.

I think a slightly better analogy, if you're serious, would be the relationship of the U.S. and Cuba (to make you feel better, I'll go along with your propaganda and pretend that the U.S. is the only bad guy in the world).

So, China and Taiwan are like if the U.S. tried to control Cuba and failed, and then some other country from the other side of the world (just for example, let's suggest it was Russia), stepped in to prop up and protect Cuba.

So, can you see how maybe what would be best for everyone is that the Cubans should get to decide on their own how they are governed? Much like the people of Taiwan, through their representative democracy, should be able to tell China to piss off already.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your analogy is completely off. Cuba wasn't ever historically a part of the US. Did not participate in a civil war within the US.

I think you need to read up on your history before you try to make a "better analogy". I used the American civil war as an example because Americans seem to be completely ignorant to the fact that Taiwan exists as separate from mainland China because of a civil war.

Cuba literally liberated itself from a US supported dictatorship. The US did invade Cuba during the bay of pigs though. China has literally never even attacked Taiwan though. So, it's really not at all compareable. Taiwan exist today as separate from China because the losing side of a civil war retreated there.

China in the 1950s absolutely would have every right to invade Taiwan and overthrow the western supported dictatorship that existed there. It would literally be liberating it's own people.

The issue is that they didn't; the people there were forced for decades to live under a puppet dictatorship of the west due to US support.

But, again, we are in this situation in the first place because of US global interests. For some reason no one can answer why the best solution is not for the US to stop trying to control and maintain influence over countries half way across the world?

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was a bullshit analogy.

Just like yours.

I thought that's what we were doing.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, explain in what what way my analogy was bull shit then. Because it's not perfect, but creating a hypothetical analogy based around America is sometimes the only way to get Westerners to understand something.

But, you, trying to equate the real bay of pigs invasion to an invasion of Taiwan that was dumb. It just showed you don't know the history of the Chinese civil war (the entire point of my analogy in the first place) or the history of Cuba.

But, go ahead. I'm waiting for you to explain why my hypothetical analogy is bull shit. I explained why yours was.

And you still haven't answered why you want the US involved with defending Taiwan. That really worked out well for Ukraine. Fighting for years so we could sell them weapons, get their men killed, and then abandon them once we found a new war to start.