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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

The following can all be true:

  • The Democrats are a right wing neoliberal party.
  • The Democrats are the most left-wing option that is realistically available to American voters.
  • The Democrats can be pushed further left if American progressives work to do so.
  • The Democrats - at the party level - will resist such a change, but that resistance can still be overcome.
  • In the long term, massive structural overhauls and the downfall of capitalism are the only things that will save America and the world
  • In the near term, voting consistly and enthusiastically for the least bad option can still protect vulnerable groups from harm and create changes that lay the groundwork for those structural overhauls.
[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

That is their entire point. Two party system means that they can take up all space for opposition to Republicans while making their policies bipartisan.

The Democratic party is entirely built to fight any leftward movement, it isn't just that the progressives didn't try. They have been trying for 80 years. It is that the entire party is structured and designed to fight that. That is the actual reason Trump could come from the outside and completely reshape the Republicans, but the Dems can form rank and resist Bernie and the progressives.

The Democrats have shown overwhelmingly and repeatedly that they would rather lose to Republicans than move at all to the left.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

Then primary the bad actors and reform the Democrat party.

This is your option. There is no other option than violent revolution and I can assure you from spending my entire life in this country that modern Americans don't have it in them.

If conservatives can morph the Republican party into the traitorous entity it is now, then liberals can reform the Democrat party to move more to the left.

History proves party reformation is possible, and inevitable.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

How about you primary the bad actors and reform the Democrat party, and then ask leftists to vote for it.

traitorous entity

Yeah mate, that's the problem with the modern Republicans: they're not loyal American Patriots anymore, like they were in the days of George Bush, Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon.

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