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Summit divided on idea of loan secured against Russian assets, as Belgium seeks guarantees if scheme goes wrong

EU leaders are racing to secure a funding deal for Ukraine that has been cast as a choice between “money today or blood tomorrow”, but Belgium continues to oppose a loan secured against Russia’s frozen assets.

At a summit billed as make or break, EU leaders are discussing an unprecedented move to tap some of Russia’s €210bn sovereign assets frozen in the bloc days after the full-scale invasion of 2022.

Under the scheme, the EU would provide Kyiv with a €90bn loan to help keep Ukraine in the fight, as Russia ekes out gains on the battlefields.

Poland’s prime minister, Donald Tusk, said leaders had a simple choice: “Either money today or blood tomorrow.”

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Starving the supply to Ukraine wouldn’t stop this war.

The tens of billions squandered on an ill-managed war would have been far better spent on refugee services and industrial development in the surrounded Eastern European block to absorb displaced peoples.

Rather than aiding actual Ukrainians and fortifying the NATO block against further Russian aggression, Europeans have pissed away a meager military surplus trying to bleed Russia into defeat. Meanwhile, the 7.7m displaced Ukrainians face joblessness, homelessness, poverty and a multitude of legal hurdles and sanctions that prevent them from resettlement.

If Europeans actually gave a shit about "Ukraine" the population rather than "Ukraine" the physical territory, we wouldn't see Polish political leaders denying Ukrainian expats civil rights

A steady and resolute supply of arms and other resources to Ukraine would allow Ukraine to make Russia’s efforts clearly useless

This is a bald-faced lie. Arms into Ukraine didn't help the country in 2018 when Trump championed it. It failed to grant Ukraine the ability to retake the Donbas, much less Crimea, even when Putin's own mercenary company turned on him.

And that's what this fight is supposed to be about. Zelensky's government wants the Donbas back. Putin is refusing. And now we're asking... how many more Ukrainians to die over a real estate negotiation? 10k? 50k? Another 100k?

We're already talking about a war that's killed roughly 400k Ukrainians and displaced a full quarter of the country's 44M population. And we want to keep this up until when exactly? Until Russia stops existing? Until we get a more favorable territory settlement? Until the next US Presidential Election?

This is the same stupid shit we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Vietnam and Korea, too. An endless war against an Ontologically Evil enemy that fuels a massive market bubble for the MIC and still ends in dismal failure.