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[–] vega208@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago (7 children)

Lol, I wonder when Ukrainians will connect the dots that they're in this position solely because they put their faith into western powers that didn't deliver on their side of the bargain.

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk -1 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

When did western powers promise that they would stop Putin invading Ukraine?

Ukraine is in their current position because Putin decided to invade Ukraine

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Western powers promised Ukraine protection against attack or invasion by themselves and Russia in the December 5th, 1994 Budapest Memorandum.

The US, France, UK, Russia, and China all agreed not to invade Ukraine and in fact to provide protection, and in exchange, Ukraine gave up their nukes.

Russia violated this just 20 years later when they invaded and stole Crimea from Ukraine, and now 30 years later they are trying to conquer the entire country.

Thats why everyone is so hell bent on providing support for Ukraine. Not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because they were promised protection by world powers.

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago

I looked at the text of the Budapest Memorandum. The main commitments seem to be a commitment to not use force against Ukraine, and a commitment to "seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine... if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression".

I absolutely hope that every country supports Ukraine and helps them at the moment. I'm just saying that it seems to me that Russia is the one who has abandoned its commitments within the Budapest Memorandum. I don't know if you can say that the US and the UK have (Wikipedia says that France and China gave assurances in separate documents, not in the Budapest Memorandum). Although I absolutely hope that the US will take a more pro-Ukraine stance as soon as possible.

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