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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the massive protests seen in 2019 were all brought by the capitalists™️, no worker did partake with the millions people marching in the streets.

Do you realise how unserious you sound???

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The 2019 protests were western backed. Jimmy Lai was just proven to have colluded with western governments. No, I never claimed there were no workers among those that rioted, my claim was that the working class in general was not behind the protests, and that instead it was a western-backed capitalist-led protest, which is true.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So, in your view, a single man can sway an entire people to follow his ideals without any issue? My my, he must be a master of deception, maybe Loki himself. You're as unserious as the legal processes in dictatorships

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

No? Jimmy Lai was just one example that was convicted in the last few days after evidence was collected. You're deeply unserious.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And where are the rest of the people who helped this wrong insurrection against the Chinese government?? Millions of people rallying against China but they're still the good guys. Keep telling yourself that you're right and everybody else is wrong, you'll be always right

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The riots died down and the majority of people support the status quo. That's literally what happened. Hong Kong is doing better now than when they were a British colony, that you seem to wish they remain.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why did the riots died down? Was it a decision by the people or had the Chinese state step in to crack down the manifestations by force? Have you seen the images of Chinese police attacking protestors and people?? Are you selectively blind?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It was both. Police cracked down on violent protestors, and the protestors gave up as well. The pro-colonization side lost and now most people support the status quo. Capitaliats are still upset though.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the always useful "violent protestors". How convenient there's always some in all movements against China

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The west does indeed try to force violence into protests they back, yep! Arming and radicalizing people against socialist governments is a tried and true tactic of the west.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And please tell me, how can you radicalise an entire people to the point where they are ready to put their lives on the line for the ideals you presented them with? Couldn't it be that these people share those same ideals while rejecting the ones being forcefully placed on themselves by what they see as a dictatorship? No, of course not, they are just all stupid and brainwashed I'm sure will be your answer. More projecting from someone who, as I already said, should have worked in a cinema

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

It was never "an entire people." The rioters were a minority of the population, with many people (and many more now) accepting inclusion into China and no longer being a colony. Those that did riot were not "brainwashed," as brainwashing doesn't exist, but instead were largely under the belief that they benefited from the colonial system (or in many cases truly did). The west colluded with elites in Hong Kong to orchestrate these riots and create a picture of a city fighting to remain under British colonial rule, but in actuality the protests died down and now people generally are happier being folded into China.

Here's a good list of sources on the Hong Kong protests and the far-right western influence on them.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So 1.7 million people protesting against the Chinese government are a minority of the population? Your delusion is reaching unseen boundaries, please tell me more about how peaceful and respectful of minorities is the Chinese government

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

Hong Kong has a population of 7.5 million. 1.7 million is definitionally a minority among the 7.5 million, and again, the majority of people are happy to no longer be colonized by England. I know hating democracy and loving colonization is your thing, though, so your logic checks out for why you'd be so confused.