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I get this is a meme, but it is trying to talk about something serious. It's worth saying that fatalist arguments are actually beneficial to liberalism and capitalism. Capitalism is not going to kill us all, humans are exceptionally durable. Capitalism intends to kill us all though, whether through the dehumanization it requires to function or its inability to contend with the material limitations of reality. Climate change mitigation is a discussion around minimising the harm this system causes while it dies, and liberals often subscribe to fatalist narratives because they dont truly imagine a world that is not capitalist as one worth living in.
Yep, that's why we need to have revolutionary optimism. Right now, incredible strides are being made by socialist countries like China to combat climate change and push for electrification and sustainability.
Calling a country where the means of production are controlled by the upper classes "socialist" is a stretch even before we consider their mixed economy and rampant capitalism.
Public ownership is the principle aspect of their economy, and a working class party has domination over their state. The large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly publicly owned, with massive state owned enterprises forming the backbone of their economy. Private, cooperative, and joint-stock ownership covers mostly the small and medium firms, and the larger of these are heavily controlled and influenced by the CPC.
As for being "mixed," all economies are mixed, that doesn't mean we can't identify what the principle aspect of the economy is. Socialism isn't a "pure" mode of production, and neither is capitalism, you don't have X% capitalism, Y% socialism, etc. That's not how modes of production work.
Saying the public has ownership implies that they have some control of it which certainly isn't true. It's more like a Palace economy than anything.
The government is democratically run, and the working class is in control of it. It absolutely is true.
That's just delusional.
You're a delusional, rabid shitlib that is actively towing the line for a invasion of Venezuela by a hegemonic power that has over 200 military bases in the world while playing down the actual efforts of a socialist nation that has succeeded in nearly eliminating homelessness with a higher literacy rate, higher home-ownership rate and higher protein consumed per capita as demonstrable effects of socialist policy meant to assist and uplift the working class of the nation.
A large majority of those in China is a PART of the Communist Party of China and it has one of the highest government satisfaction rates in the entire world, despite the criticisms people can level at it rightfully or not. You tow the line for imperialism, deny the accomplishments of one of the most successful socialist experiments and have the right to call anything "delusional?"
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Terminally online MLs now use "Shitlib" like conservatives use "woke". A word for everything they don't like.
No? China is a democratic country with more people happy with it than western countries: