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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 165 points 2 days ago (35 children)

The real shock to Americans will be when they discover this can't be fixed.

Americans want to believe that relations will return to normal once the democrats are back in power. But, they don't understand that the loss of trust in the US is permanent. Sure, if the democrats take back power and want to negotiate trade deals, other countries may sign them. They're just not going to believe that the US can be trusted to honour the terms of those trade deals, and will structure the deals accordingly. Trump's 2 terms show that a treaty signed by the US is meaningless, because a president like Trump can come along and just rip it up. They've also showed that support for someone Trump-like is close enough to 50% that it can easily happen again.

The momentum of international trade, and the vast power the US wields means that there won't be a sudden cutting off of the US. But, bit by bit, even former staunch allies are going to start slowly pivoting away from the US whenever possible no matter who's elected and how big a landslide it is.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Americans do not take the situation seriously. They either think they have no power to personally fix it, so contributing to any effort is pointless, or that it's just more of the same politics as before and can't tell the difference. They are encouraged to stay out of the way because they are the only force that seems to be capable of stopping it at this point.

Once Trump and the GOP destroy the framework of power the constitution defines, there are no rules anymore, only power, and the constitution really does mean nothing. The relationship America built with the world since WW1 will be over and won't return as democratic nations can not remain interdependent with a fascist America. America will be another authoritarian regime using violence as the solution to every problem, including domestic problems. Those problems will only increase because an authoritarian leadership is functionally incapable of managing a non-authoritarian system. America will transition, painfully and violently, to a fascist state and the dream that was America will be dead. All at the hands of a TV show personality and the generations raised by TV, which is both sad and painfully American.

Edit: Not enough Americans...

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i mean, some of us legitimately have next to no power. or have good operational security.

me, i have 3,000 miles distance between me and krasnov at any given time and putting in a lisa novak style cannonball run would be sure to tip someone or something off. I'm going to leave it to someone closer.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

This is the other problem with Americans. You think the next step after words is going in guns blazing. Your media is full of it, so it's no wonder you're brainwashed into believing it. It's why there are so many mass shootings. Someone disagrees with someone else and reaches for his gun.

That's not the next step. The next steps are to organize, protest, disrupt, disobey, obstruct. You can do all that from your own city.

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