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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This looks interesting but it's horrendously long and my eyes glazed over (need more coffee...). Is there a shorter description of what it does? I.e. what are the keys used for and how are they generated? What is it that's getting encrypted? It sounds like it's supposed to be E2EE for PM's. A two or three sentence description saying how the E2EE works and how the private keys are stored would be very helpful.

[–] Soatok@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want E2EE for Mastodon, you need key management to be solved first.

This solves a lot of the key management pain. It's not v1.0 stable yet, but it's finally implemented. I've been working on the spec for nearly 2 years.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll take a look when I get a chance, but like you said, it's a public key directory. I thought you were claiming to have a solution to client side keys. Is there trouble with using some existing PK directory scheme?

[–] Soatok@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, if you read the post it will make more sense.

Or the specification if you're more technical.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll see if I can read the post but when I tried this morning, it was way too long. I'll look at the specification. I've been involved in crypto implementation since forever, which is why this looked interesting. But I think the client side also has to be figured out, if it hasn't been yet.

[–] Soatok@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The client side is its own beast. See https://github.com/soatok/mastodon-e2ee-specification?tab=readme-ov-file#components from my initial project (the "key transparency" thing from today slots neatly into the "Federated PKI" hole).

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks. I'll look and post comments later if you want them.

[–] Soatok@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

Certainly. Thanks <3

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's unhelpful. How is it used? Thanks.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't do any of the things you have asked about.

It's a building block for a reasonably secure e2ee PM system.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh. Tbh that doesn't sound very significant. LDAP might be enough by itself. Thanks.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are you are looking for more complex tools that don't do the job sure.

Honestly just read the article before, and some of the linked texts before you continue talking. Or don't. Just please don't be a know it all who doesn't need to read, it's not very appealing.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I've read the article again and am still in a state of confusion. I'll see if I can get through the spec. But there are a ton of unanswered questions that I think could have been cleared up concisely.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

White text on a black background ... I didn't even try to read it.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, dark mode? Nothing outrageous there.

There's always reader / article view if you really can't handle the colour scheme

There is also having the site adjust to match my browser's theme.