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It was "only" displacement, colonization, and (smaller) ethnic cleansing at that time
Edit: here's a list of bombings by the Irgun, a Zionist militia and terrorist organization (who were eventually folded into the IDF) during (and after) WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
Hers a list of mammoths migration patterns that sparked a resource war with Neanderthals.
I’m sure you are technically correct but that isn’t most people “starting point”
There’s only so far back you can go before people labor it non important
Edit: not important to current events. Not saying it wasn’t horrible
My point is 2000 years ago that was undisputed “Israel “ how far back are we going before we have to admit “that doesn’t matter for this discussion “
single-verse: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+20%3A17&version=CJB
Genociding was the founding of Israel, itself.
There isn't any "Israel" which isn't standing-on genociding, since all "Israel"s are standing on that biblical historical fact
( much in the bible is visibly-corrupted, much is simply male-ego's bullying, pretending that male-ego is the worldly-manifestation of G-D, but that bit, corroborated in other books, looks factual, to me )
Genociding other nations was the basis of Israel, right at the root, according to the Jewish bible.
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Not important to current events? Explain to me how groups that were merged together to form the IDF, and were fighting to create Israel is unimportant to Israel and its current actions and existence.
From the very beginning of Zionist migration to Palestine (the historic region, whether it was under Ottoman rule or British rule), it was colonial, and intended to remove the people currently living there. You can read it from Theodore Herzl, and Ze'ev Jabotinsky. Some of the first and very prominent Zionists. David Ben-Gurion,the first prime minister of Israel himself, in a letter to his son basically said the partition plan was just the first step to taking the entire land.
Without that ideology and attitude, we wouldn't be where we are now.
I already explained.
“If we look at migration paths of mammoths we can see…” you have to draw the line somewhere. It’s complicated.
You have something that shows it was this groups fault? Great a few years before that it was someone else’s choice.
It’s over 2000 years of history. We have to draw the line somewhere.
It's not really that complicated.
The "over 2000 years ago" or whatever previous maybe exigent state of Israel has nothing to do with the current one, other than as a religious fig leaf and excuse for Zionism. To quote Ilan Pape: "Most Zionists don't believe that God exists but they do believe that he promised them Palestine"
You're the one that brought up WW2 as a time period in the first place. Only to discard the evidence I presented of yes, in fact Zionists (who ended up forming Israel, and Zionism continues to be the basis of Israeli society and politics) were already committing what would/could/should be considered terrorist attacks against Palestinians.
As long as Zionism/Zionists have existed in Palestine, they have existed to displace or kill all Palestinians.
I draw the line at the most logical place: Zionism's creation/popularization. It is the root cause of all this.
It’s not complicated? I’m on your side brother but I’m not expressing it “enough@ for you. I’m not hitting all the correct notes for you. Therefore you need to change the person “on you’re side”
Sound complicated to me brother.
If someone come to me and talks me slavery is bad I don’t need to explain the complicated back story. They are on my side. I accept them.
It’s important to you that I know specific backstories.
Sounds like it’s a complicated issues then brother.
I’m not signing up for the lecture. I’ve already landed where you want.
Is that not good enough my friend?