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People in Britain who think they are governed by fools should take a closer look at the Russian and US presidents. Vladimir Putin is systematically ruining his country. His war of choice in Ukraine is an economic, financial, geopolitical and human calamity for Russia that worsens by the day. For his own murky reasons, Donald Trump, another national menace, offered him a lifeline last week. Yet Putin spurned it. These two fools deserve each other.

On the table in Moscow was a “peace” deal that, broadly speaking, rewarded Russia’s aggression by handing over large chunks of Ukrainian land, compromised Kyiv’s independence and weakened its defences against any future attack. The Trump deal, if forced through, would have split the US and Europe; ruptured Nato, perhaps fatally; reprieved Russia’s pariah economy; and probably toppled Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s government.

These are key Russian war aims. But Putin, suffering from neo-imperial fantasies and legacy issues, said “no”. He reckons he can get it all, and more, by fighting on. He has persuaded the idiot Trump that Russia’s victory is inevitable – and that scheming Europeans are the real warmongers. Yet his premise is fundamentally flawed. Hard facts confound him. Almost four years on, he’s still trapped in Donbas mud and ice. And at home, things fall apart.

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[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yet we didn’t hear it from the beginning. In the beginning we saw the might of the second strongest military of the world ready to crush a smaller country in no time. 100 000s of troops, a fleet of battleships, fighter jets and tanks. We all remember this giant column of thousands and thousands of tanks on the way to Kiev. They’re were untouchable.

Where are they now? Where is the flagship of one of the worlds strongest militaries? Where are the men that first heralded the attack? Where are those untouchable tanks?

I’m generally rude to russian propagandists. What I can’t stand even less are useful idiots. What are you?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Technically the Moskva was the Black Sea Fleet flagship, not the overall flagship of the Russian Navy.

That's the aircraft carrier Kuznetsov, which can't even move under its own power, and its air complement couldn't be replenished since the 80s.

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I know, but I thought the details confuse him even more.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This comment strikes me as incredibly out of touch and full of straw men. Nobody was impressed with the Russian military in 2022. That's why they've been waging a hybrid war since before they annexed Crimea. Their economy is the size of Italy's. Ukraine has a lot of land area for a power like that to conquer, and so it's been adrawn-out war of attrition and slow gains. You're asking where they are? Mostly the same place that they started, with half a million casualties and an occupied pile of rubble.

The useful idiots are the people who drag this conflict out, thinking that one side can win. We need a cease fire, the map has to be redrawn, and security guarantees need to be made to both sides regarding the region. Instead we'll get another half million dead and a frozen conflict in the middle of the most fertile land in Europe. In the meantime we'll keep hearing about how another 20 F-16s will turn the tide and Putin's government is on the verge of collapse. And everyone who points out how absurd that is gets called a Russian propagandist.

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh look, another one. Funny, I think your comment is fundamentally dishonest and contradictory.

We need a cease fire, the map has to be redrawn, and security guarantees need to be made to both sides regarding the region

That are many words for just saying Ukraine should surrender.

If you‘re so concerned about the people, maybe you should ask your dear leader to stop the war of aggression?

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you hear yourself? What do you get out of this?

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

A world with one less dictator.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m generally rude to russian propagandists.

No - you're just an asshole.

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

And you’re a coward, since you didn’t answered my questions.