Drama in the Fediverse

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Welcome to the Lemmy Drama community!

This is a place to share and enjoy drama across the fediverse. Grab your popcorn, and dive in!

Rules:

1. Don't bring your own drama.


If you are a part of the drama, don't post it here. We're here to enjoy drama, not see it brought to this community.


2. Be civil.


No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. No ongoing drama.


if there’s been a comment in the past 3 days, wait until it’s settled down.


5. No interacting with the drama you find here.


That means no upvotes, no downvotes, and no commenting in the original thread.


6. Keep the drama focused on Lemmy and/or the fediverse only.


If it’s Kbin or Mastodon drama, it must be a quality effort post.


7. Don’t piss on the popcorn.


Inciting brigades is an automatic ban.


8. Mod Perogative


We reserve the right to enforce the rules however we like.


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
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Hey. I noticed that the only moderator for this community was banned a year ago, so I requested to take over.

I'm still working on the rules, the banner, and stuff, but one thing - going forward - I know will be a rule:

  • No drama you are a part of. If you're in the thread, don't post it here.

Also, as with all moderators, I'm always looking for people to help out. If you're interested, let me know!

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Please feel free to discuss whether we are being overrun by Fascists or Tankies in the comments.

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Honestly this is one of the funniest bans I’ve ever gotten

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/40188039

Archived

Left-wing extremists have been showing "substantial activity on Lemmygrad.ml" with an accompanying increase in toxicity, a new joint study published by Binghamton University and Cyprus University of Technology on Arxiv says.

The researchers also identified posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content.

"Overall, our findings contribute to a more nuanced understanding of political extremism within decentralized social networks and emphasize the necessity of analyzing both ends of the political spectrum in research," the researchers conclude.

[...]

Users on Lemmygrad.ml frequently discuss [...] China and North Korea, with many posts expressing support for them.

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Discussions [on Lemmygrad.ml] on the Israel-Palestine conflict primarily criticize Israel. While many posts condemn antisemitism, [the authors] also encounter numerous posts that extend beyond criticizing Israel, displaying anti-Zionism and even antisemitism.

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[The study] results show that users of Lemmygrad.ml frequently share posts that support authoritarian regimes, as seen in their support for China, North Korea, and Russia. Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Additionally, we observe anti-Zionist and antisemitic behaviors, which show similarities to right-wing extremism.

[...]

Our analysis suggests a concerning endorsement of authoritarian actions and extremist rhetoric on Lemmygrad.ml, further indicating that left-wing extremist communities on decentralized platforms should receive more attention from the academic community.

[...]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26489182

Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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Current drama thread: https://lemmy.world/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

And musical accompaniment: [EXPLICIT] DragonFucker (Feat.‪@TieflingMelissa‬)

Warning: the part where the horns comes in is fire.

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That's not a challenge.

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Original comment chain

FlyingSquid is a Zionist who actively censors content critical of israel. In the past this was using false claims of anti-semitism but after acquiring mod powers he has started banning anti-israel posters.

After acuiquiring mod powers on /WorldNews FlyingSquid bans me by making up lies about defending the usage of child soldiers which never happened:

Recently he tried to defend himself by lying about it

After being called out for lying FlyingSquid pretends to act in good faith for a little as if he was just confused that day. Let's see what happens when we play along:

When pointed out the he was lying the crybully instantly paints himself as the victim who is "about to be insulted". FlyingSquid is clearly trying to bait an insult to use as an excuse for a reban:

Despite not being insulted, the crybully still claims he was. The Zionist victim complex is a sight to behold. He now demands to be acknowledged for his abuse of mod powers likely hoping to bait an insult:

After failing to ragebait insults the Zionist crybully "changes is his mind" and starts tacking on random extra conditions as an excuse to reban me. He now starts demanding acknowledgement for how amazing he is for falsely banning people.

At this point it is very obvious FlyingSquid has no intentions to unban me from WorldNews and is just trolling:

Subsequently he lies one more time in his ban description.

Edit: JordanLund has joined in and claimed that if you support any action of a group or individual, you fully support every action that group or invidividual has ever committed. Meaning that anyone who supports Joe Biden forgiving Student Loans actually supports the Genocide in Gaza and is a Zionist.

Edit2;

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I'm going to 3D print a badge and pin it to my wall, or something. Right after I finish rolling on the floor and laughing. Just give me a few minutes.

  1. Context: This guy creates an "angry" sub to bitch about things. Cool, cool.
  2. Same guy posts a couple of troll-level ranty screeds filled with nonsense and bad faith "arguments," such as they can even be considered arguments at all. W/e, that's his prerogative. However...
  3. Doing this in public means that this makes it to the .world front page as these things do, which invites people to comment on this silliness. Myself included.
  4. Jabroni gets butthurt about his opinions actually having to withstand scrutiny and then, of course, hilarity ensues.

  1. ...But bro is also under the impression you can't say "fuck" on the internet for some reason?

But that's not the actual headline, here. What's bats is, he actually went through and deleted pretty much every comment in that thread. Here it is.

He's, uh, really racking up the popularity.

TL;DR: User openly calls out a specific demographic (one that is prevalent on this instance, no less), is shocked when said demographic shows up, responds by throwing a tantrum and bans everyone from his playpen. Comedy gold!

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/4931568

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/7659598

A few days ago, Beehaw posted an announcement in their Chat community about the challenges of content moderation and the possibility of leaving Lemmy. That post was eventually locked.

Then, about two days ago, Beehaw posted an announcement in their support community that they aren't confident about the long-term use of Lemmy, due to so-called concerns about Lemmy.

RedditAlternatives discussion

If you currently use Beehaw and want to stay on the federated Lemmy network, consider migrating your account to another instance like lemm.ee.

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Highlights:

Admins are also banning everyone for saying they're leaving

What surprises me is that people think making a community specifically for illegal activity isn’t a problem, and that they should only be called on their behaviour when a copyright holder notices them. There are plenty of places to go for piracy online, so what’s the need to add a community for it here? Or are you people claiming a piracy community wasn’t primarily intended for piracy?

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426956

Time to host my own instance. I disagree with this move.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2429393

The people whining are not the people that could face multimillion-dollar lawsuits over the issue. Like it or not, media companies are powerful and will go after websites seen as promoting piracy. Do what you reasonably have to do.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426973

Oh no. Wtf. Do you know what’s funny? I actually joined this instance from piracy subreddit.

I guess it’s time to leave.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2425186

I don’t think this was the right call. Don’t have it hosted on here, fine. But defederated? I don’t see how being federated would be an issue at all. Oh well guess i got to actively go seek them out now.

At this rate, you might as well as defederate from all instances. Cant be too careful.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2427348

Bootlicker [-8]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2427940

These communities are not even hosted on lemmy.world, this is an absurdly overreacted response. There were no signs of any legal trouble and I can’t understand how lemmy.world specifically would be the target of such legal action. If you want to host an instance, you should do everything in your power to allow discussions on any topic, while in necessary cases disallowing direct posting/linking of illegal content. Instead, you chose to block a community that has long been known to avoid having any trouble with the moderators.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421890

Doesn’t matter if they are hosted here or not. The way federation works is that threads on different instances are cached locally.

We have NO issues with the people at db0 - we are just looking out for ourselves in a ‘better safe than sorry’ fashion while we find out more. As mentioned in the OP we would like to unblock as soon as we know we can not get in any legal trouble. [chadmins]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421890

What the absolute hell? What makes this place so good is that there’s not people making idiot decisions at the top. This is an idiot decision. Plus side of the fediverse is vanishing.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424687

Uh, @lwadmin@lemmy.world … what’s up with the banning going on in this thread? I noticed on a.lemmy.org that someone was labeled “banned” and their comment was simply “Ight, I’m out”

The mod note was “Let us help you”.

There are more similarly weak (spiteful?) bans that certainly don’t seem to be at a standard for a ban. “Litterally 1984” was another one. Is that all it takes to be banned here?

Edit: Many (all?) the users I referenced as banned are now unbanned from the site, but now banned from this community. :marseyban:

https://lemmy.world/comment/2422473

Please make announcements on lemmy instead of exclusively on discord moving forward. That is the biggest issue here, the lack of public transparency. Such a decision affects all instances, not just lemmy.world and making it publicly known is important

This was a misunderstanding from one of the team members. It has since been discussed and will not happen again. Lemmy.World and this announcement community is our primary platform, [chadmin]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421280

And once again we have people thinking that the instance owners would have to discuss everything they want to do with them and get the approval of everyone. It’s already great that they’re making announcements instead of doing it silently until people notice on their own. Plus, it’s not hard to make an account elsewhere if you don’t like it here. I doubt you’re restricted to this single instance.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424187

Ight, I’m out

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421940

Surely there is a discussion to be had around what is and isn’t allowed, there are plenty of subreddits discussing piracy without dolirect links that are playing within the rules.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2420730

fucking hell, its time to leave lemmy.world, you are no better than reddit :marseysnoo:

Says the redditor

https://lemmy.world/comment/2422227

What is the legal theory being used here?

People chatting about piracy is now a crime in US? I thought the crime was uploading or downloading copyrighted content…

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421667

Lovely this happened because someone complained after being banned from the piracy instance for being a transphobic asshole. :marseytransplushie3:

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421151

Yea, I’m leaving. Not as a protest, I just want access to something without caring if devs like it or not.

All hail Piracy!

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421558

Well said! I think the entire LW community would prefer a heads up for major actions. It’s understandable that piracy could lead to liability issues which none of us want. Thanks for giving us a run down.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2420912

Is it a liability when the discussion happened outside of lemmy.world?

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421575

Deleting lemmy now I guess as well [-3]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424715

Wtf? I’m leaving.

Is there a way to migrate a community? [-3]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2428100

I’m sure this comment will receive plenty of hate, but I’m really struggling to understand why piracy seems to get so staunchly defended by seemingly everyone here. Piracy is stealing. It is morally wrong. We can argue all day about how it’s a ‘victimless crime’ or how media conglomerates are greedy and deserve it, but at the end of the day there’s nothing that makes it ‘right’. With maybe a few exceptions, no one needs the things they’re pirating and it’s just childish to refuse to pay for content and go on pretending it’s a necessity. What needs to happen is more money going to the creators whose content we all enjoy so much.

There’s plenty of places to go where you can still interact with these communities, and we shouldn’t be surprised that a large and general instance wants to be distant from them. Personally I applaud the decision. [-6]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426834

Literally 1984 [-14]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421877

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3191819

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3305498

After a thread was made in !support@lemmy.world asking to defederate from lemmy.dbzer0.com for "the facilitation of piracy, and copyright infringement in general which is illegal", the admins of lemmy.world deleted it prompting discussions on !asklemmy[@]lemmy.ml and !piracy[@]lemmy.dbzer0.com.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3302765

I'll start the popcorn machine 🍿

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2508035

Hexbear thread


Why is it wrong to be critical of western propaganda?

https://lemmy.world/comment/1962328

okay this is freaking wild:

We need a sub dedicated to bot building, trolling and brigading effectively. Screw morals, or decency. They’re tools that maintain the status quo.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1959011

I definitely appreciate the hesitation in defederation, but I’m in favor of defeding with both hexbear and lemmygrad.

I’ve seen more than enough “Stalin did nothing wrong posts” to know that discussions are pointless and would lead me only to frustration and a desire to drink.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958306

Freedom of speech does not constitute an obligation to listen.

Good for you!

Exactly. Freedom of speech != Freedom from social consequences :soyreddit:

Well, in a truly “free” society, yes freedom of speech would constitute freedom from “social consequences.” However, the United States, and in fact, no Earth government, is a truly free society. There are rules and laws that exist, thus restricting freedoms. However, specifically regarding freedom of speech as it is mentioned in US law, it specifically is a protection for citizens from retaliation by the US government, and does not cover interactions between citizens.

So I wouldn’t say “freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from social consequences,” but rather “freedom of speech does not include a requirement that others listen.” There are laws with regards to how other citizens can respond, including laws against assault and libel and such. But there is no law that says anyone must to listen to what you have to say simply because you have the freedom to say it. Thats quite a preposterous idea.

At least in the US, each citizen has the right to say what they choose within the constraints established by law, and to choose who they will listen to. [-43]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958407

As an instance owner myself some of this is concerning. I understand why lemmy.world would want to defederate from them. I won’t defederate on my instance at this point, but if personal attacks start to happen or rules get broken, then it will be considered.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958492

I don’t agree with their sh*t and whatnot, but this move seems to me like “We will defederate you because your political beliefs are not the same as ours.” What a shame, Lemmyworld admins.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958923


https://lemmy.world/post/2475933

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by gsa32@lemmy.world to c/lemmydrama@lemmy.world
 
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2444685

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2433349

One chain of drama starts here, with TwoGems whining about the tankies which live rent free in his head. A tankie takes the bait, however:

Stupid god damn libs complain about tankies every time for these threads

this is just a teaser for the main event, however. Downthread, CCP hater Gamey remarks on lemmy's political character:

It’s facinating to see Lemmy go wild, kind of sad how many seem to support dictators with concentration camps and similar shit but also cool how many downvote them!

In response, Israel hater Blursty responds with this based and dramapilled take:

The only state with concentration camps in the real world is the USA and its colony in Palestine.

The drama continues on, worth reading if you have the time. Here's some other snippets from this post:

ryannathans who notices the insularity of lemlibs:

Can’t exist on same server as people with different ideology reeeee

and immediately gets accused of being a conservative 🤣

as well as attracting the ire of the above-mentioned TwoGems, who engages in misplaced anti-Turkish bigotry:

They’re like an infestation. Quick get the roach spray!

Stupid anarchists (but I repeat myself) have a stupid discussion over some dumb shit, idk, I didn't read it.

They miss out on the dumbest take award. Which I am proud to present to khajimak, for this banger of a comment, for complaining about being other people being redditpilled, before going on to engage in the most classic of redditor behaviors, moral grandstanding:

The entire thing sucks lol. Sorry you dipshits are so Reddit pilled you still only have one joke. Instead of saying lol he’s just like hitler lol he doesn’t like it when us dank memers refer to him as a cartoon character, you should share the numerous human rights atrocities he’s commited and call for his public execution

And that's a wrap folks!

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2222266

Please rename the community to US Politics if that is the only topic allowed.

rename the community RedTeamBad [-3]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1732326

They’re not really much debate going on in this community. 95% of all posts are just “lol republican dumb Nazis” and every comment that’s not agreeing is downvoted to hell. [-23]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1729210

Perfectly proves my point.

This community is just “if you’re not “vote blue no matter who” you’re a dumb nazi”. [-24]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1730089

Just read the rules next time and it won’t be an issue for you. [-5]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1732326

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2118245

Users a pretty split on the decision and some in that thread are claiming the bhalaj is only doing it for the sake of drama.

announcement: lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1204784

response: lemmynsfw.com/post/418317

[removed] comment: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/1336587

Edit: more drama

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Not the most dramatic thread, but I’m trying to get some drama posted here again. Regardless, !politics@lemmy.world can get very dramatic

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Highlights:

Again. What the fuck does Hunter Biden matter, and why is this Scarecrow looking scab insist on wasting our money on this garbage?

Because he’s sneaking cocaine into the White house? [-74]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1585918

Now file charges under DC revenge porn law

https://lemmy.world/comment/1571973

Get her with the DC revenge porn law. It states very, very clearly, in the very first part of it, that what she didn’t did is illegal

Here:

(a) It shall be unlawful in the District of Columbia for a person to knowingly disclose one or more sexual images of another identified or identifiable person when: (1) The person depicted did not consent to the disclosure of the sexual image;

Except he very much did consent to disclosure by turning a drive and it’s content over to someone else [-97]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1574002

One side uses a distraction. It gets full media attention. People get involved. People get angry. People start blaming each other. Then, the other side counters with a distraction. It gets even more heated. This time it’s personal. There might even be consequences. Maybe…

Why the fuck are you eating all this rotting shit those out of touch, self-absorbed, greedy, attention-seeking Partisans are serving you? [-6]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1588479

These pictures… were in the publics interest… to see [-71]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1571673

One of the ai porn boffins needs to spin up a few MTG images. [-21]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1572028

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