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Kyiv has been offered a “Kremlin peace plan” under the guise of negotiations. The US and Russia have reportedly prepared a peace plan for Ukraine that would involve Kyiv meeting the Kremlin’s maximalist demands, says Christopher Miller, a correspondent for the Financial Times.

At the same time, Reuters sources report that the US indicated to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that Kyiv should accept Washington-prepared frameworks for ending the war with Russia. It remains unclear what security guarantees would be given for Kyiv, as there is no evidence that the Kremlin has abandoned its imperial ambitions.

Earlier, Axios wrote that Washington and Moscow were discussing a new peace plan to end Russia’s war against Ukraine.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

So basically, allow the invaders to invade your country without resistance?

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And then wait for them to do it again in about 10 years to grab for even more. It's not a peace plan, it's surrender.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

"Make Russian your official language!"

10 Years Later

"We must invade and claim territory, the majority of the population speaks Russian so obviously it's already Russia"

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

More: "Make this retroactively legal so we can avoid war crime trials and damages".

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It is said to have been inspired by the Trump administration’s efforts to broker a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

That explains a lot. Basically "reward the aggressor" and "prevent any possibility for future armed resistance"

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Also “create a news event that will make Trump look like he’s accomplished something,” non matter how meaningless it is on the ground.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I for one prefer full scale war than this.

SLAVA UKRAINI!

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

You know you can go enlist, right?

I think what you meant to say was,

I for one prefer Ukrainians continue throwing themselves in the grinder

Despite the fact that,

More than three years into the war, Ukrainians’ support for continuing to fight until victory has hit a new low. In Gallup’s most recent poll of Ukraine — conducted in early July — 69% say they favor a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible, compared with 24% who support continuing to fight until victory.

This marks a nearly complete reversal from public opinion in 2022, when 73% favored Ukraine fighting until victory and 22% preferred that Ukraine seek a negotiated end as soon as possible.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/693203/ukrainian-support-war-effort-collapses.aspx

Edit: grammar

[–] lysol@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

These polls are so bad. It's like asking "would you like peace?". Ukranians know perfectly well what would happen to them and their relatives if they lost the war. Fighting a war SUCKS but it was not their choice to go to war. It was not their choice to get terror-bombed every single night.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 weeks ago

It's like asking "would you like peace?

It's actually not like that at all. It's actually pretty simple:

Which of the following statements about the war with Russia comes closest to your personal views?

Ukraine should continue fighting until it wins the war

Ukraine should seek to negotiate an ending to the war as soon as possible

Don't know/Refused

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh look, another .ml bot, how unsurprising.

See my answer to your comrade. Bye.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What is it with yall refusing to believe any opposing viewpoints are organic?

Those 69% of Ukranians who want to end the war via negotiation - are they Russian bots as well?

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

The fact that they want the war to end doesn't mean they want to surrender.

Your cherry picked data means nothing, like your opinion.

I know... I know... It's hard to hear but try not to cry if you can...

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fundamentally unserious "just admit defeat" type of offering. The real signal is that the US is still a painfully unreliable ally.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

The same type of plan the west and in fact China and Russia back up for palestinians. Both Ukraine and Palestine should not give up a single inch of land to the occupiers and desfinitely not surrended armed resistance

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

When will someone explain to Donald that Russia only respects power. Always has always will.

Slap them hard enough and often enough and THEN negotiate.

Maybe a tomahawk to one of Putins personal villas?

[–] collar@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Trump admires this. He doesnt see Putin as an enemy, but an inspiration. Same reason MBS was welcomed the way he was at the White House, while people like Zelenskyy are mocked and scolded when they arrive.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago

Don't forget a big part of the deal: Putin won't show pictures of Trump sucking off Bubba.