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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world -3 points 4 days ago (17 children)

Imagine being so communist and/or anti-American that you can’t criticize a fascist capitalist state over a liberal capitalist state.

You’re too smart to make the argument that Russia’s actions are restricted to the areas they allege are majority Russian.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Kiev is run by far-right neo-Nazis that uphold Stepan Bandera. The Russian Federation isn't socialist by any means, but it isn't run by literal neo-Nazis and it isn't ethnically cleansing anyone.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world -4 points 4 days ago (14 children)

This is just Russian propaganda.

Here in reality, no, Ukraine isn’t run by neo Nazis. Are some people in the army Nazis? Yes, of course…people who like to kill other people are generally terrible people.

It’s amazing that, for whatever reason, people give such a pass to Russia. Russia is a fascist dictatorship that absolutely ethnically cleanses groups all over the country and it’s satellites.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This post is three days old, this thread is buried deep, and the only people still here are ones who you’re not going to convince because they know you don’t know what you’re talking about. It is you who are repeating propaganda, as if we haven’t heard it all a thousand times before.

We know all the same things you know and a whole lot of things you don’t, because we’ve actually investigated. If you have a commitment to the truth and the luxury of time, you can, too. Previously.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I know exactly what I’m talking about. I’m more skeptical than all these zero sum pro Russians combined.

If you read what I wrote instead of babbling what you wanted to react to…you’d not mice I’m not pro Ukraine…I’m just aware that Russia is a dictatorship that’s also full of Nazis.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russia is no more a dictatorship than the US or Ukraine are. They’re all oligarchies, run by the consent of the bourgeoisie. [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

Putin actually is popular. Russians have good reason to like him: he kicked the Western capitalist neoliberal shock therapy plunderers out of the country, whom Yeltsin let in. It’s still a capitalist shithole, but at least it’s their shithole and not a neocolonized state anymore.

Russia isn’t “full” of Nazis, though it certainly does have some fascists. I don’t know where you get that from. It’s not like you provide any evidence for your assertions.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Russia is an actual dictatorship…of one person. As terrible as the USA is…they at least switch between a terrible leader and a fascist one every 4-8 years, or so. I think you confusing “literally” a dictatorship with “figuratively” a dictatorship. They’re not the same. The USA has terribly gerrymandered elections is a broken system that favours small states…so it takes a lot more to overcome the fascists…but at least it possible. Meanwhile, Russia has entirely fake elections. The USA isn’t there…yet. Getting close.

You guys are far-out. It’s like…what…anti-American horseshoe theory? You’re so anti-American..you come out the other end supporting evil dictators?

If you want to shit on The States in isolation…I’ll do it all day long…I’m a Canadian socialist….but I haven’t lost my objectivity just because I hate Americans so much.

Ukraine isn’t any more full of Nazis than Russia is…all those Slavish places are lousy with them. Ukraine is just like any other Eastern European place…or any place in the world, really: the people in the cities are generally nornie’ish and westerners can relate to them…and people outside of cities can be crazy fundamentalist ma in one way or another. Canada is also full of Nazis, BTW…my hometown is having giant open rallies. Where I used to live out west where it’s supposed to be full of hippies just had one. You find Nazis anywhere you find poor white people.

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