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Russia's bribing this JACKASS seems to have finally paid off for the Soviets.

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[–] misspelledusernme@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (21 children)

I'd like to learn more about the progress on the rearmament of Europe. Do you have any long form resources I could read?

I only hear bits and pieces about the slow progress. I remember hearing the goal that the EU would produce X amounts of ammunition per year. Did that happen? I also recently heard about Ukraine opening a factory in Denmark. That seems good, but still not the broad rearmament I've been wanting to see.

Are there good overviews, with some stats and maybe some nice looking graphics? I realize a lot is secret, but still.

Edit: I decided not to be a lazy bum and did my own googling. I found this testimony about the "Danish Model" by a member of CSIS. I learnt that Ukraine has capacity to produce $35B of military equipment per year, but only $6B to spend. Other countries are purchasing another $10B worth of military equipment per year from Ukrainian producers. This is the Danish model.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (16 children)

Russia still outproduces all of NATO in artillery shells, tanks, etc. And most European countries only have enough stocks to survive an Ukraine style war on their own for a few months without help (if they can fight as efficiently as Ukraine which is not a given). That's why unity and further ramp up is so important. Most of the really impressive production is happening inside Ukraine. But it's also generally not up to Russian rates. It will be some time before Europe is really prepared to go it alone and that's only if they really start producing now, which I wouldn't say is really happening yet.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Russia still outproduces all of NATO in artillery shells, tanks, etc.

Without a qualitative measure, those numbers are nearly meaningless. It's also worthwhile knowing how much of that materiel actually gets to the front lines. Command economies are notorious about claiming to hit production targets, yet nothing actually changing downstream. Nobody wants to tell the boss they missed their production quota, since doing so can lead to defenestration.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They are certainly of lower quality, but in the words of Stalin, "Quantity has a quality of its own".

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

I don't think Stalin actually said that. I can't find a good source anyway.

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