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The worst-case scenario is now a possible one: European troops fighting off an invasion largely alone.

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side. “The direction of history is a progressive disengagement of the United States from the European continent,” he said.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side.

This is discussed too rarely. Does anybody know of a source that makes a reliable comparison?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Well, France has the second or third largest/most powerful individual Navy in the world, and Russia has severely diminished trained personnel, so unless China enters it would be a one sided massacre in Europe's favor.

Probably why Russia has worked so hard on the south of Ukraine to secure the sea border even losing territory in the north.

The issue is when China enters, and whose side they will be on. Does Xi Jinpooh see more profit in helping his cabal of friendly dictators or would he just carve out a slice of the Russia Pie?

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why would the navy be relevant? The war is about controlling the area that cannot be reached by ships.

[–] adhd_traco@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

If none of their ports work, I'd guess it would affect their war effort considerably. It also means stable supply lines by water and no worries about naval movements.

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