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all IRL anarchists i ever met are based. can't think of a single exception rn.
internet western "anarchists" are insufferable, because they are very obviously just libs trying to look cool.
This might not be what you meant, but I've found 90+% of the 'online left' regardless of ideology to be far more ultra-left, alienated and toxic than most people on the ground, even including the drama kiddos on college campuses and split rival organizations. To everyone I highly recommend finding people in real life, if possible.
real life leftists are fun as hell to be around. if anyone's looking for some:
I kinda got excited about redneck revolt but their website says they disbanded in 2019.
the national org did but the local groups are still active. probably look for things that say either "redneck revolt" or "john brown society"
Good.
Harder to usurp and pervert.
there are niches with good people but i get where you are coming from.
i think most leftists are yet to learn how to use the internet effectively. that and they get heavily censored in corporate social media.
Or left it entirely over a decade ago.
Probably a lot of fake anarchists paid (or duped) to give anarchism a bad name, to give people the wrong idea about what anarchism is, to turn them away from mutual freedom for each and all, back into the arms of daddy corporatarchy government.
Like that malarch in this thread, saying they wanted to kill 37% of everybody, because anarchism. `_`
the cia has done shit like this in the past and i bet they will do it again here, but i doubt lemmy is already being intervened on just yet.
i think we are still on the passionate lib stage of things.
Arguably the dupes.
As opposed to internet communists who are well known for not being insufferable
leftists in general are correct (anarchists and communists alike), a lot of libs are bothered by that.
i think this is the main reason, regardless of how annoying the specific terminally online individual might be.
there's also difference between being correct and being effective. right wing propaganda machines program people to exist in binaries and young leftists, new initiates i mean, have to break out of that. they have to learn to listen to the problems people are experiencing and talk about how to address those problems rather than fixating on an us/them dichotomy
Have you considered that if leftists are correct, conservatives are too, and that it’s merely a matter of perspective? It seems as though your consideration of libs being bothered may be a case of projection as it bothers you that other perspectives may be worthy of consideration as well.
Da fuq you on about?
See my other reply in the thread.
Yeah. Maybe should cease being played into being against each other.
Unite freedomwards.
No more falling for the terror psyop of each being out to take away your freedoms. Cui bono.
leftists are correct, fascists are wrong. it's just a matter of accepting it. fuck their murderous perspective because it is making most of our lives objectively worse.
no sane society would even consider letting them take it to their final consequences. let's see how ours will do.
I think I agree with you, I was merely trying to point out that not all conservatives are fascists. Thinking that way leads to a superiority complex in leftists that may ultimately turn themselves into fascists too.
conservative is an euphemism for fascist at this point. especially on 2025 political climate.
i mean... hating gays, hating leftists, hating immigrants for no good reason and wanting completely deregulated capitalism with a sprinkle of christian fundamentalism and mysogyny and so much nationalism its weird?
I’m not much of a conservative, so no need to try to bait me 😂
But if that was not your intention, carry on!
i didn't intend this as bait, conservatives do build these euphemisms even for themselves. just a bit of disgust for them showing.
although liberals can lean right, if i had to guess i'd say you are more on the liberal side instead of straight up conservative or fascist.
What exactly does based mean in this context?
it's ancient internet slang for something cool i guess.
anarcho capitalism!
Ewww no!
maaaaan can't make it right ...
I'm pretty sure that's default capitalism.
nono it's BETTER: https://youtu.be/ktNgVmySQ5k
Let me be that exception! I think the best way to destroy authoritanism, is to help people become so independent of other's resources, that they can just decide to opt out of work for good. And there would be no way to strike against them that isn't blatant force or robbery (Can't cut their electricity due to bills, can't cut their food source as they grow their own, passive water generation, technical expertise, no illegal activities, small amount of passive income to cover land tax).
They would still have small vulnerabilities, but it would be quite quite hard to force them and keep them in a toxic workplace, if they can just chill for months or even YEARS, without being forced to work. This will force workplaces to basically suck up to the average employee, increase raises, increase benefits, and oh...abuse would be completely intollerable.
Would you posit that one can prosper once they have become self-reliant by achieving political, economic, and military independence?
I mean, in theory, sure. But in practice, you'd need a large labor surplus that was unassailable by settler-colonialist looters. How do you marshal these reserves and defend them adequately?
Yeah, the number one issue is military capabilities, and what I fear, since I can't and won't teach them violence. I just hope there will be enough backlash if they are disturbed.
The point isn't just to be a tough, individualist badass. The idea is that you can only have fair relationships, if there is nothing for others to leverage over you. The moment there's power dynamics, you introduce corruption. But if someone has to respect you, they can choose to leave the relationship, or compromise with you.
Then you can trade all the surplus, make all the relationships your heart desires, from a clean slate. What they have to figure out, is how to organize and fight themselves if needed.
my biggest worry is they do this a lot though and are escalating. fighting back won't be easy considering they are beefing up police and military forces around the world.
Everyone has limited resources, especially when your source is cut off.
Yeah. Bring on the emancipatory technologies.
All the technologies that can emancipate us, each and all.
Y'know...
All those technologies that are suppressed by capitalists to maintain their crippling extortionate rents that happen to be very polluting too.
And to, oh, y'know, undo all the McCarthyian redscare psyop that conflates anarcho-communism with totalitarian communism and presents capitalism as the system that frees them.
"Ferengi don't want to end the exploitation. They want to become the exploiters." -- Rom
Would be a lot easier once people stop falling for all the "advertising and marketing".
Or if someone just decides to provision everybody with spaceships of their own. Each capable of printing another of itself instantly, sustain life, with zero-point energy powered zero-inertia propulsion, safe enough for a 2 year old to fly home. I hear these already exist (for about a century now). Could have not just "disclosure", but radical provisioning sublimation. Do you have spaceships yet? And the reassurance everybody else does too so they're not trying to take yours?
I fucking would if I could. You have no idea the insane shit I tried to do that no normal person would!
John Hutchison type stuff?
Something like that. Attempted to fucking carve a 3D printer frame out of some rotten log (I was destitute, and trying to recreate the WolfStrap).
I had no plan on how to get the metal parts.
I also (attempted) to design something that can print itself.
Now I'm trapped in an eternal cycle of work, like most people, and my next shot (if any), will be during retirement.