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[–] lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I'm not a Republican. I like Mamdani,I would have voted for him if I were living in NYC. I don't actually think this tweet on Xitter is inherently racist.

Most people believe 9/11 was caused by radical Muslim jihadists hijacking planes and slamming them into buildings. Radical Muslim jihad still exists. It is not like there are zero radical Muslims out there who want to destroy Western society, subjugate women, kill all homosexuals, kill all atheists, and institute Sharia law. That is not actually a made up trope of the greedy right to suppress the lower classes, that is in fact reality. There are still women not allowed to learn math in some some countries.

The fear Gulianai has, which I do not think is irrational to consider, is that by voting for a liberal Muslim, it's going to lead to policies that make it easier for radical jihadists to take root in America, that somehow a liberal Muslim mayor may embolden radical Muslims with extremist views or make it easier for radicals to take root within more insular Muslim communities in NYC, even if it's just a result of a cultural shift in which people do not fear radical jihadists. (This is not my opinion of what will happen!) I do not believe this view is inherently racist or Islamaphobic. I don't think it's wrong to have conversations about this, as long as it's done while realizing that many NYC Muslims are incredibly nice good people who support women's education, LGBT+ rights, and liberal values.

It would also be understandable if someone viewed this xitter post as Islamaphobic and racist and disagreed.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The fear Gulianai has, which I do not think is irrational to consider, is that by voting for a liberal Muslim, it’s going to lead to policies that make it easier for radical jihadists to take root in America, that somehow a liberal Muslim mayor may embolden radical Muslims with extremist views or make it easier for radicals to take root within more insular Muslim communities in NYC

This is absolutely irrational and islamophobic lol what the actual fuck are you talking about

[–] lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As an LGBT person, I am very scared of any religion that has as part of their religious laws that people like me should be put to death. I am scared of Christianity, I am scared of Islam, all of it scares me. Perhaps that makes me Islamaphobic. Mamdani is a good person and he supports diversity and genuinely cares about people. He is not homophobic, he supports LGBT people, and if every Muslim were like him, I would not be scared of Islam at all.

Accepting Muslims can lead to negative impacts on women's rights and LGBT rights. This is not speculation. One example is Canada: Canada had a very relaxed and liberal policy towards bringing in Muslim immigrants. Eventually, some of these Muslims started protesting, along with other religious conservatives, against Trans people. Here is an article about this if you don't believe me:

https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-muslims-to-stage-million-person-march-to-protest-against-trudeau-liberals-push-for-lgbtq-indoctrination-in-schools

So, I don't think it's Islamaphobic to believe that more acceptance of Muslims can lead to political movements by Muslims that are more conservative. The most conservative Muslim movement would be Sharia law, in which women can't read or learn math or do anything and in which someone like me would be stoned to death. To say it's irrational to be concerned about conservative Muslim movements taking root in areas that make Muslims comfortable, when Canada brought in many many Muslims who then protested against LGBT people, is ignoring reality.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can blame the USA for promoting and paying for wahabism and then you smear all Muslims based on western manipution. For thousands of years the Muslim world was the center of human rights, education and culture and will be again. It is absolutely Islamophobic to claim that just being Muslim makes people conservative. There are queer Muslims too like any other culture, Wazina Zondon comes to mind maybe take a look at what they have to say about it instead of me speaking for them.

I read another article about Mamdani: https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/12/02/zohran-mamdani/. He's just so accepting and liberal and nice. Perhaps radicalism is so far removed from what he is about that he would not make any conservative radicals of any kind feel more comfortable and it actually is an irrational way of looking at things to consider that somehow it could lead to pockets of increased radical religious conservatives in the region. You probably will never see this, but I'm just updating this that perhaps I am wrong.

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