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You're right, but that's not what they did it seems. They didn't just restart it. They did things like requiring the red team to leave their AA radar on, so they could be targeted. They required them to not use AA against certain targets. They made them not use certain weapons systems. They also didn't allow them to use tactics freely.

The point is, like you said, to learn. It isn't to re-enforce doctrine. It's to find out where it fails so it can be fixed. They wanted a show to say the US military can't be defeated, not to learn how to fight an asymmetric war against a gorilla force.

I'm pretty sure it's positive. Salt is (was, but still is to a lesser extent) extremely valuable. It's literally where the word "salary" comes from. Every person, and animal, needs salt to survive, and it used to be much harder to obtain than today. It's only bad in extremely high amounts in a field you're planning to grow crops.

OK, I said I was done, but one last one.

And NOT being in any arithmetic book means it's not part of Arithmetic 🙄

Here is a distributive law lesson for grade 4. Here's another, and another. My search was just "when is the distributive law taught in schools". These were the first results.

It being used in an algebra course doesn't mean it's in the domain of algebra. Algebra is also used in calculus, but algebra isn't the domain of calculus, correct?

It's algebra when it's using variables, and you're solving for an equation. 2(3+4) is arithmetic. 2(x+4)=0 is algebra.

Arithmetic: a branch of mathematics that deals usually with the nonnegative real numbers including sometimes the transfinite cardinals and with the application of the operations of addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division to them.

Algebra: [A] branch of mathematics in which arithmetical operations and formal manipulations are applied to abstract symbols rather than specific numbers.

Note: Algebra includes the use of arithmetic. It being used in algebra does not mean it is part of algebra.

Can you point to some other times in history where the threat of being beaten up has been effective in eradicating an ideology?

WWII?

Yeah, it usually doesn't eradicate it. That's basically never how we measure effectivity though. Being nice hasn't either. Again, the point isn't to change the person being attacked in these cases. It's to show others that their views are not acceptable by society. It's to show others that it isn't a widely held belief and to not listen to them.

Yeah, unless we go on an all-out war against them it won't be eradicated through violence. Growth can be slowed though. That's why I said we need both violence and dialogue. They both can be useful tools.

It probably won't change that person (unless you kill them). It's to show everyone else that it isn't tolerated. It's to prevent them from going around doing whatever they want as if it's normal, which will make other people believe it's acceptable and may start believing the same things.

You said "I don’t think you’re right", and followed it up with "Ill informed", to a Maths teacher.

About pedantics, not math. Sorry, your realm does not extend into English. Even if you were one of the great mathematicians of our time (which I suspect your not, but I don't know you) this still isn't the same domain. It's tangential to mathematics, but it isn't mathematics.

I know everything about high school Maths - I teach it

Everything, huh? There's absolutely nothing you can improve on? Has a teacher ever been wrong (or just uninformed) about a topic in a subject they teach? Does every English teacher know the content of every book? You can be a great teacher and still not know everything. No one knows everything about a subject, even when they're complete experts. Anyway, this isn't your subject! This is English, not math. Do you see any formulas, proofs, or equations in these comments?

You think Maths textbooks use very strange logic??

What don't you get? It being in an algebra textbook does not limit it to the realm of algebra. Numbers are in that textbook too, yet they aren't exclusive to algebra. I'm reasonably confident that your textbook, where it teaches this, does not say "this is a part of algebra, and no other domain." If I'm wrong, I'd love to see the citation.

Anyway, unless you provide that proof at the end there, I'm done with this conversation. Goodbye and I hope you have a good time teaching math!

Maths teachers are ill informed about Maths?? 😂

Dude, there are math geniuses, who were powerhouses in the field, who were wrong about some things. Do you think you're above them?

Which therefore contradicts your argument about it being part of Arithmetic, which is taught in elementary school, Algebra isn't

I don't think you understood that. Elementary particles are taught in undergrad physics, not elementary school. They're elementary because they're fundamental, not because of when they're taught. Elementary school teaches you the fundamentals to your future education. That's why it's called that, not because they teach you everything that uses the word "elementary." Also, many things are fundamental (elementary) to their fields that won't be taught to elementary school students. The sharing a word does not make them related.

What do you expect to happen when you call a Maths teacher wrong about Maths?

I didn't say you were wrong about math. I said you were wrong about English that is used in relation to math. Clearly this isn't a strong suit of yours, and that's fine. However, stop acting like you know everything, because you clearly don't. You're using some very strange logic to argue you're right, and it doesn't make any sense.

You're very rude. Also, Ill informed, and you think you're smarter than you are. For example, this:

as an example in “elementary algebra.”

Algebra isn't taught until high school

Elementary doesn't mean elementary school. Do you think elementary particles are the ones they teach you in elementary school? Lol. Elementary means fundamental or basic.

I don't think you're right. The wiki page literally uses a similar equation as an example of "elementary arithmetic." It also uses a similar one, but with variables, as an example in "elementary algebra." That implies that yes, this is arithmetic, and the introduction of variables is what makes it algebra.

It doesn't matter what course finally teaches it to you. That could be just out of convenience, not by definition part of that domain. It's been ages since I took it, though I could swear I learned this in pre-algebra (meaning before algebra), or earlier. I could be wrong on this though. Again, it's been a very long time.

Yep, and it has the potential to be very effective. I think we need both of these —punching Nazis and talking with them to change their views.

Another big issue that goes with this is a lot of people will say that if their were bigots once then they should be shunned. This is very harmful though. If we do that then their only reasonable option is to double down. If they lose their group and also can't be accepted by the rest of society then they're never going to do that.

I think this problem is much larger than only this right now too. People make their opinions equal to them as a person. They feel if they change their opinion then they're failing as a person. This isn't true though. Changing your opinions when you're shown new information is a sign of strength.

Well, it's a plant floating in the air. It's already over-engineered. You might as well go all the way at this point.

I don't know that he didn't get it. He just hadn't a different method of fighting back. Not everyone is going to be able to go around knocking them out. The vast majority of people won't in fact. There are still other tools they can use to stop the spread, or, in rare cases, reverse it. You have to be careful to not legitimize it though if you're doing something like that.